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butterflyke wrote:on a lighter note, get @tycho to engage these alchambu in an ideological discussion and trust me, atawachanganya mpaka they wont remember what they were fighting for in the first place  There's nothing to fight for butterflyke. Kuchanganya, must happen. That's the unnameable way. Lol.
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Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you.
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symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero.
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable. What makes it 'disturbing'? Yesterday we were thinking about how crime was escalating despite the correctional measures that we're used to. It's like the common citizen is experiencing civil war and the government and leadership seem to be not just unaware, but helpless. Isn't the status quo even more disturbing?
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable. What makes it 'disturbing'? Yesterday we were thinking about how crime was escalating despite the correctional measures that we're used to. It's like the common citizen is experiencing civil war and the government and leadership seem to be not just unaware, but helpless. Isn't the status quo even more disturbing? True the status quo is disturbing but on the same way we are complaining about crime,government and leadership I would imagine some of the perpetrators are complaining about us.For we also benefit from the system as it is. Identity is held more closely than anything else.It is the foundation for the actions of men.A byproduct of identity,the ego,is largely defensive thus the very notion of challenging it is met with resistance.Ignoring that and the issues it would present,is there such a thing as an all encompassing accommodating identity?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable. What makes it 'disturbing'? Yesterday we were thinking about how crime was escalating despite the correctional measures that we're used to. It's like the common citizen is experiencing civil war and the government and leadership seem to be not just unaware, but helpless. Isn't the status quo even more disturbing? True the status quo is disturbing but on the same way we are complaining about crime,government and leadership I would imagine some of the perpetrators are complaining about us.For we also benefit from the system as it is. Identity is held more closely than anything else.It is the foundation for the actions of men.A byproduct of identity,the ego,is largely defensive thus the very notion of challenging it is met with resistance.Ignoring that and the issues it would present,is there such a thing as an all encompassing accommodating identity? Identity is always all encompassing, all inclusive. The 'problem' is that identity is a function of 'consciousness' and 'consciousness' is full of 'impediments'. One impediment is the 'ego'. Like now, there are very many adolescents who are engaged in crime and prostitution. Every year I watch new recruits joining and dying, and I ask myself to whom these youngsters belong. Or rather, what's their ego concept, and who I think they are. The whole matter ends up in who I am. The youngsters define me as I define them. We are all linked by what I may call a 'cosmic code' or is it 'cord'? Probably both. But coexistence to me, means codetermination. I am the thief, and the prostitute. The compulsive liar and swindler. By being selfish, I have only hoped that the invisible hand would intervene. But why is the hand invisible? Because of low visual capacities. But capacities can be, and have often be improved. Think of how the human brain has developed over time. How can we then imagine that the hand is no longer visible? If it's a hand, then there's a body. A foot, a head . . . that is, the 'invisible man' who transcends the visible and selfish individual. This 'invisible Man' is now visible. And all of us are his reflections.
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable. What makes it 'disturbing'? Yesterday we were thinking about how crime was escalating despite the correctional measures that we're used to. It's like the common citizen is experiencing civil war and the government and leadership seem to be not just unaware, but helpless. Isn't the status quo even more disturbing? True the status quo is disturbing but on the same way we are complaining about crime,government and leadership I would imagine some of the perpetrators are complaining about us.For we also benefit from the system as it is. Identity is held more closely than anything else.It is the foundation for the actions of men.A byproduct of identity,the ego,is largely defensive thus the very notion of challenging it is met with resistance.Ignoring that and the issues it would present,is there such a thing as an all encompassing accommodating identity? Identity is always all encompassing, all inclusive. The 'problem' is that identity is a function of 'consciousness' and 'consciousness' is full of 'impediments'. One impediment is the 'ego'. Like now, there are very many adolescents who are engaged in crime and prostitution. Every year I watch new recruits joining and dying, and I ask myself to whom these youngsters belong. Or rather, what's their ego concept, and who I think they are. The whole matter ends up in who I am. The youngsters define me as I define them. We are all linked by what I may call a 'cosmic code' or is it 'cord'? Probably both. But coexistence to me, means codetermination. I am the thief, and the prostitute. The compulsive liar and swindler. By being selfish, I have only hoped that the invisible hand would intervene. But why is the hand invisible? Because of low visual capacities. But capacities can be, and have often be improved. Think of how the human brain has developed over time. How can we then imagine that the hand is no longer visible? If it's a hand, then there's a body. A foot, a head . . . that is, the 'invisible man' who transcends the visible and selfish individual. This 'invisible Man' is now visible. And all of us are his reflections. How is identity all encompassing and inclusive? When it comes to reflection,there is the possibility of not relfecting the 'invisible Man'.
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable. What makes it 'disturbing'? Yesterday we were thinking about how crime was escalating despite the correctional measures that we're used to. It's like the common citizen is experiencing civil war and the government and leadership seem to be not just unaware, but helpless. Isn't the status quo even more disturbing? True the status quo is disturbing but on the same way we are complaining about crime,government and leadership I would imagine some of the perpetrators are complaining about us.For we also benefit from the system as it is. Identity is held more closely than anything else.It is the foundation for the actions of men.A byproduct of identity,the ego,is largely defensive thus the very notion of challenging it is met with resistance.Ignoring that and the issues it would present,is there such a thing as an all encompassing accommodating identity? Identity is always all encompassing, all inclusive. The 'problem' is that identity is a function of 'consciousness' and 'consciousness' is full of 'impediments'. One impediment is the 'ego'. Like now, there are very many adolescents who are engaged in crime and prostitution. Every year I watch new recruits joining and dying, and I ask myself to whom these youngsters belong. Or rather, what's their ego concept, and who I think they are. The whole matter ends up in who I am. The youngsters define me as I define them. We are all linked by what I may call a 'cosmic code' or is it 'cord'? Probably both. But coexistence to me, means codetermination. I am the thief, and the prostitute. The compulsive liar and swindler. By being selfish, I have only hoped that the invisible hand would intervene. But why is the hand invisible? Because of low visual capacities. But capacities can be, and have often be improved. Think of how the human brain has developed over time. How can we then imagine that the hand is no longer visible? If it's a hand, then there's a body. A foot, a head . . . that is, the 'invisible man' who transcends the visible and selfish individual. This 'invisible Man' is now visible. And all of us are his reflections. How is identity all encompassing and inclusive? When it comes to reflection,there is the possibility of not relfecting the 'invisible Man'. Africa is the cradle of Man; science tells us thus. What does this imply? For example, what does genetics show about our identity? What's the aim of political power? The 'invisible man' is a multi dimensional sum of infinite reflections.
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley.Might be an interesting read for you. Thank you @symbols. I have already began looking at what's available, and I have been able to see even more clearly where the seat of power is. Apparently, Quiggley only hints at it from far. It's also interesting to note that the book has not only be censored, but most minds would be ill disposed to the implications of these revelations and would most vociferously deny them. It's much like saying that Mandela is not an African hero. I've come to appreciate your emphasis on identity.IMO (re)defining how man views himself and his role in relation to others,institutions and his environment especially in this connected world of ours seems to be the most important factor.It is disturbing but inevitable. What makes it 'disturbing'? Yesterday we were thinking about how crime was escalating despite the correctional measures that we're used to. It's like the common citizen is experiencing civil war and the government and leadership seem to be not just unaware, but helpless. Isn't the status quo even more disturbing? True the status quo is disturbing but on the same way we are complaining about crime,government and leadership I would imagine some of the perpetrators are complaining about us.For we also benefit from the system as it is. Identity is held more closely than anything else.It is the foundation for the actions of men.A byproduct of identity,the ego,is largely defensive thus the very notion of challenging it is met with resistance.Ignoring that and the issues it would present,is there such a thing as an all encompassing accommodating identity? Identity is always all encompassing, all inclusive. The 'problem' is that identity is a function of 'consciousness' and 'consciousness' is full of 'impediments'. One impediment is the 'ego'. Like now, there are very many adolescents who are engaged in crime and prostitution. Every year I watch new recruits joining and dying, and I ask myself to whom these youngsters belong. Or rather, what's their ego concept, and who I think they are. The whole matter ends up in who I am. The youngsters define me as I define them. We are all linked by what I may call a 'cosmic code' or is it 'cord'? Probably both. But coexistence to me, means codetermination. I am the thief, and the prostitute. The compulsive liar and swindler. By being selfish, I have only hoped that the invisible hand would intervene. But why is the hand invisible? Because of low visual capacities. But capacities can be, and have often be improved. Think of how the human brain has developed over time. How can we then imagine that the hand is no longer visible? If it's a hand, then there's a body. A foot, a head . . . that is, the 'invisible man' who transcends the visible and selfish individual. This 'invisible Man' is now visible. And all of us are his reflections. How is identity all encompassing and inclusive? When it comes to reflection,there is the possibility of not relfecting the 'invisible Man'. Africa is the cradle of Man; science tells us thus. What does this imply? For example, what does genetics show about our identity?What's the aim of political power? The 'invisible man' is a multi dimensional sum of infinite reflections. What does this tell us about our identity? Political power - acknowledged influence. Infinite or finite,reflections still have an established order to them. Life is so interesting!
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symbols wrote:Marko Rodin 'Hot'. Very sweet. Yet if you consider that all or most was known to the ancients, but now seems strange or new, you begin to have a feeling that the scientific revolution has been grossly misunderstood, and Man has been at the mercies of idols for some time now.
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@Symbols & @Tycho.. Have u guys read "Meditations" of Marcus Aurelius? Illmatic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Chief Guest wrote:@Symbols & @Tycho.. Have u guys read "Meditations" of Marcus Aurelius? I have. Why?
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Chief Guest wrote:@Symbols & @Tycho.. Have u guys read "Meditations" of Marcus Aurelius?  .....no.Tell me about it.I probably won't read it.
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@Symbols.. u shud read it..its an easy read. Illmatic
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