Today and cars ..wow ..... kumbe guys know that much... will save this discussion print it and carry it in my next car shopping.....

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And what happens when the battery dies and it is an automatic transmission car? Woooiii!

AKS

For overtaking - if u remove overdrive (O/D) then floor,you get the same effect as changing down a gear. So points gone to manual on that - lost!

For getting stuck - use 'L' drive on toyos,nissans and a couple others- on most recent models,you can lock it at any gear 1,2 mpaka 3. So points gone to manual on that - lost!

For ku-stua,here manual comes clean. But guys,if you can afford a car,you sure can afford a 5K Chloride battery - which will not mess you up.

So you decide.


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@Alphdoti
When the battery dies you buy another. Just like any other car.
Ama you're the guys who stua a car every journey?

ili iwe funzo...

@Mburu

I will open by stating categorically that for me,it is automatic any day! I have been driving a premio automatic for the last 8 months and I just cannot imagine driving a manual car ever again!!

The deal you have at hand is good according to me (premio is one of the sturdiest,best features mid size toyota sedans; the AE91 and AE100 of today) but note that the condition of the car is very critical. Have your mechanic check it out. You may also be able to tell a lot by assessing the general condition of the car: paint job,shocks,etc are they worn out? beware if the car has been repainted....it may be an attempt to hide previous abuse. has the car been used as a taxi? be careful there.

Let me also say that it is unbelievable the ignorance of several people who have replied to this post. There is this myth (maybe a macho thing) about having control over a car if it has manual transmission. Nothing can be farther from the truth. I guess the myth came about due to the design of early ATs. Good people,ATs have come of age and unless you are a rally driver,you will not gain one ounce of advantage in terms of performance by driving a manual!! Only strain and arthritis in your left limbs!!! hehe. Remember all the myths about EFI??? This current myth is also dying out albeit too slowly. Anyone still proselytizing about manual is just exhibiting the common flaw in human character called 'resistance to change'.

I would also like to correct one very common misconception about the feature in ATs called O/D or overdrive in full. The confusion is not unexpected. The term 'overdrive' is a serious misnomer,at least to the lay mind!! To put it very simply,O/D is the highest gear in an AT,equivalent to gear 5 in manual. It does not and cannot give you more power! maybe more speed. You should engage it all the time (to save fuel) unless climbing a v. steep hill,towing or stuck in mud (in which cases you should engage 2 or L,anyway). Those claiming that the car 'vrrooms' when the O/D is engaged either have nil experience with AT or are extremely confused. If you floor an AT car,there is no difference at all whether O/D is engaged or not....the car automatically shifts to low gears and never to O/D. O/D only engages when you are cruising on the highway at a steady speed,not when accelerating.

Now there is even newer technology in transmissions;Just google 'continuous variable transmission'. this is my next frontier. i recently test drove the 2002 model premio which has this feature and immediately regreted buying the 2001 model.

Jaflog,the engine computer system is linked to the auto gear box and the integration of the two ensures fuel effeciency.when u replace the gear box,u disconnect the integration and the system ir 'confused'.it cannot recognise the gearbox .

hey

@simonkabz

What's wrong with a D4 2000 engine?
I have one and it's superb
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In man prudence,in woman patience - Jacob Cats

@majimaji,I have a way of doing ma thing. If at least 5pple complain about sth,I dont touch it. This goes 4the engine in question and the shameful GDI mubishi engines. Same for any chinese vehicle of whatever make. Im also keen on consumption coz I wouldnt wanna drive with one eye on the fuel gauge-very dangerous! I admire subarus from a distance as i know numerous facts about them that i dnt like. Do it ua way my brother,its the best thing!

The only reason why some people are still alive is coz its illegal to shoot them!!

O/D

Very useful conversations going on.. To add on.

For a 4 speed AT:
O/D Off - prevents shift into 4th gear - greater accl (lights up on the dash)
O/D On - lower engine revs at higher gears - greater fuel economy

Some good link here:

On fuel economy. I came across this : - i think there's loads of such tips online.

Perhaps someone should do a study for our unique driving conditions.


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From my reading up online,the GDI/D4 engines can be troublesome especially if you don't take care of them.

I also drive the D4 2000cc corona premio ... So far (almost 2 years) no problems at all. I have pal with a similar car which he's had for > 18 months. I also have a pal whose driven a Mitsubishi GDI for nearly 5 years .. so far - no problem with the engine. The common factor is that the cars are serviced on time and well taken care of.

I've kept stats since I imported the car and the average mileage is 10.89 km/litre over the last 20 months,that's not including the small error of ~ -3% due to the non-standard tyre profile. This i'd think is not bad for a 2000cc vehicle. I've done ~15km/l when going to coast too.

I guess selling it off later will be a challenge due to the perceptions and experiences out there with the engine - so I intend to milk max value out of it,before selling it and getting one of the TDi vehicles out there... But so far I know what i need to do to keep it running well.

It has sufficient power when needed (142bhp; subaru 2002 TX has 134bhp,the subaru 2002 TS-R has 152bhp,mitsubishi VR-G 2002 142bhp).
I've actually never needed to O/D it when a boost of power is needed. But i'm not the shekhar mehta type.

As for torque I'm still getting my head round the concept. All I know max torque at low RPM is good.

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And lastly,why call it mileage when it is in kilometres per litre :)

Kanda,O/D will only bring fuel effeciency at speeds above 60km/hr and that is a fact you can take to a bank!!!!!

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