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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Engineer Kamau decrees that henceforth all gaarment officials must fly KQ. The following day WSR jets in onboard a KLM. Is it a case do as I say, not as I do? Or is it that ICC flights are personal and not underwritten by the tax payer? Daily Nation wrote: The government has directed all public servants travelling by air to use Kenya Airways (KQ), a move that will most likely save it money on tickets procured at concessionary rates and boost the national carrier’s passenger numbers.
Cabinet Secretary for Transport and Infrastructure Michael Kamau on Friday said that the cabinet had approved the directive and that the government was in the process of securing the services of travel agents who will help the government obtain the tickets. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Gordon Gekko wrote:@Horton, I used a 772 from LHR in August and wouldn't exactly say the kite was in great shape. My personal screen was hardly responsive to touch, my seat wobbled wildly during takeoff, the under carriage made a deafening noise as it retracted - not exactly a nice user experience, unless you gauge a/c fitness solely by the soundness of the engines. Could be the rolls royce trent 800 engine's noise, experienced in most 777 it matters where you sit so many complaints about it i wonder if they are working on noise reduction "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:@Horton, I used a 772 from LHR in August and wouldn't exactly say the kite was in great shape. My personal screen was hardly responsive to touch, my seat wobbled wildly during takeoff, the under carriage made a deafening noise as it retracted - not exactly a nice user experience, unless you gauge a/c fitness solely by the soundness of the engines. Kwani? It made for an exciting flight. Otherwise, you would be bored & just go to sleep!  Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:@Horton, I used a 772 from LHR in August and wouldn't exactly say the kite was in great shape. My personal screen was hardly responsive to touch, my seat wobbled wildly during takeoff, the under carriage made a deafening noise as it retracted - not exactly a nice user experience, unless you gauge a/c fitness solely by the soundness of the engines. Kwani? It made for an exciting flight. Otherwise, you would be bored & just go to sleep! ok IFE has had issues however, i understand a new IFE is coming very soon. Used to be rockwell, they went bust, i believe they have sourced a new provider to do a retrofit. The "deafening" noise.....depending on your previous experiences.....i would say this is a good thing  My airworthiness perspective is from a pilots point of view..... Thats not just power plant, but also airframe, interior etc..... please fly the american carriers to know what a tired B777 feels like! @murchr.....RR engines and GE engines, the only 2 777 engine suppliers have a similar noise output in terms of decibels. The B787 is a tad bit more quieter. There obviously can't be pin drop silence in the cabin, again, i would be extremely anxious if i was in an airplane with no engine humming at all
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Ethiopian to steal Kenya Airways' limelight yet again? 28OCT2013 Kenya Airways (KQ, Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta) could see the much-vaunted and publicized introduction of its first B777-300(ER), 5Y-KZZ (msn 41818), pre-empted by that of rivals Ethiopian Airlines (ET, Addis Ababa). According to AirlineRoute, Ethiopian Airlines' first B777-300(ER), ET-APX (msn 42101), is scheduled to operate Addis Ababa to Guangzhou on November 15, 2013, a full four days ahead of Kenya Airways' B777-300(ER) début on the same route from Nairobi.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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mwekez@ji wrote:Ethiopian to steal Kenya Airways' limelight yet again? 28OCT2013 Kenya Airways (KQ, Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta) could see the much-vaunted and publicized introduction of its first B777-300(ER), 5Y-KZZ (msn 41818), pre-empted by that of rivals Ethiopian Airlines (ET, Addis Ababa). According to AirlineRoute, Ethiopian Airlines' first B777-300(ER), ET-APX (msn 42101), is scheduled to operate Addis Ababa to Guangzhou on November 15, 2013, a full four days ahead of Kenya Airways' B777-300(ER) début on the same route from Nairobi. Doesn't matter. A lot of those who fly to Guangzhou are Kenyans who are happier to board direct flights from NBO. No lost luggage, missed connections, better/shorter times. Of course, it depends on the fare too! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Horton wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:@Horton, I used a 772 from LHR in August and wouldn't exactly say the kite was in great shape. My personal screen was hardly responsive to touch, my seat wobbled wildly during takeoff, the under carriage made a deafening noise as it retracted - not exactly a nice user experience, unless you gauge a/c fitness solely by the soundness of the engines. Kwani? It made for an exciting flight. Otherwise, you would be bored & just go to sleep! ok IFE has had issues however, i understand a new IFE is coming very soon. Used to be rockwell, they went bust, i believe they have sourced a new provider to do a retrofit. The "deafening" noise.....depending on your previous experiences.....i would say this is a good thing My airworthiness perspective is from a pilots point of view..... Thats not just power plant, but also airframe, interior etc..... please fly the american carriers to know what a tired B777 feels like!@murchr.....RR engines and GE engines, the only 2 777 engine suppliers have a similar noise output in terms of decibels. The B787 is a tad bit more quieter. There obviously can't be pin drop silence in the cabin, again, i would be extremely anxious if i was in an airplane with no engine humming at all You can say that again, esp American Airlines...eish! "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:Engineer Kamau decrees that henceforth all gaarment officials must fly KQ. The following day WSR jets in onboard a KLM. Is it a case do as I say, not as I do? Or is it that ICC flights are personal and not underwritten by the tax payer? Daily Nation wrote: The government has directed all public servants travelling by air to use Kenya Airways (KQ), a move that will most likely save it money on tickets procured at concessionary rates and boost the national carrier’s passenger numbers.
Cabinet Secretary for Transport and Infrastructure Michael Kamau on Friday said that the cabinet had approved the directive and that the government was in the process of securing the services of travel agents who will help the government obtain the tickets. This as usual will apply to the kawa civil servant the big wigs will continue flying the other airlines... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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VituVingiSana wrote:mwekez@ji wrote:Ethiopian to steal Kenya Airways' limelight yet again? 28OCT2013 Kenya Airways (KQ, Nairobi Jomo Kenyatta) could see the much-vaunted and publicized introduction of its first B777-300(ER), 5Y-KZZ (msn 41818), pre-empted by that of rivals Ethiopian Airlines (ET, Addis Ababa). According to AirlineRoute, Ethiopian Airlines' first B777-300(ER), ET-APX (msn 42101), is scheduled to operate Addis Ababa to Guangzhou on November 15, 2013, a full four days ahead of Kenya Airways' B777-300(ER) début on the same route from Nairobi. Doesn't matter. A lot of those who fly to Guangzhou are Kenyans who are happier to board direct flights from NBO. No lost luggage, missed connections, better/shorter times. Of course, it depends on the fare too! cc SIR Obiero,senior pilot B777-300(ER) flight 5Y-KZZ @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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KQ is hinting at flip over to the rally side...  $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,497 Location: nairobi
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hisah wrote:KQ is hinting at flip over to the rally side... What? Say that again.. Music to my ears :)
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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@obiero - Looming breakout after flatlining at 10 - 10.50 range for a while.  UPDATE: I've just snooped at their website and seen that H1 will be released on Nov 13th. Now I see the price pattern...  $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,497 Location: nairobi
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hisah wrote:@obiero - Looming breakout after flatlining at 10 - 10.50 range for a while. This thing has a habit of sky rocketing.. It may as well leap upto 30bob upon release of generally acknowledged positive results in next two weeks. One thing everyone should be certain is that KQ will report vastly improved figures
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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obiero wrote:hisah wrote:@obiero - Looming breakout after flatlining at 10 - 10.50 range for a while. This thing has a habit of sky rocketing.. It may as well leap upto 30bob upon release of generally acknowledged positive results in next two weeks. One thing everyone should be certain is that KQ will report vastly improved figures The 1st hurdle is to regain 14/- and overcome that rights issue price resistance. Then 17 - 20 range is another tough zone then 25 before the 30 target can be hit. It's a long way to go towards 30 and highly ambitious even for next year.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Kq once gave me a 50% loss. I laugh when i remember. Should i get back at this loss by trading KQ shares. some sort of revenge you know what. I don't believe in the company at all, but this might give me some well deserved closure. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,220 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Behavioral rule no.6 on trading.... I will not try to get revenge on the market forces if I lose on a trade. But ofcourse @Aguy is not a trader  @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Behavioral rule no.6 on trading.... I will not try to get revenge on the market forces if I lose on a trade. But ofcourse @Aguy is not a trader The emotional cocktail absorbed on losing trades can blow your account to zero especially in volatile markets like futures and FX.
@Aguy - wachana na revenge. Mr Market will crash you if you think that way...$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,497 Location: nairobi
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@vvs. was refferin to results in 2 weeks not share price at 30! but incase it happens, siwezi mind! :)
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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hisah wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:Behavioral rule no.6 on trading.... I will not try to get revenge on the market forces if I lose on a trade. But ofcourse @Aguy is not a trader The emotional cocktail absorbed on losing trades can blow your account to zero especially in volatile markets like futures and FX.
@Aguy - wachana na revenge. Mr Market will crash you if you think that way... @spt , hisah I need this bana. I lost to kq when I was young. ok younger. I need this. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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