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Operation Fukuza Umaskini Mashinani- Please assist...
washiku
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:29:18 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
These are the kind of things that Chairman Mao used to do...very communist/marxist ideas that made all the chinese poor and starving. The market works just fine if it ain't broken don't fix it
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @mkonomtupu The system is currently broken...Brokers all over hovering to pick from the few farmers who av afforded to farm. Others will farm and when its harvest time, their produce wont be touched because they used the wrong mix of chemicals. Others want to farm but they dont have a way of getting funds. Institutions has money to led but the farmers are not in any organized way where the institution can fund, thus the risk of lending to individual farmers is too high....Its a whole complex thing that leads to a lose-lose situation. How do you suggest we fix it for now? I want a way where these guys can afford to utilise the land instead of leaving it idle and suffering in poverty. I would appreciate your idea on the same.
tycho
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:37:13 PM
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Think about what you are saying about markets. How can finlays be a market? The market is largely those who consume these products, and where is this rise in demand? But here in Kibra we have plenty of polythene bags even clogging the rivulets and everything. But they are good material for making some beautiful furniture, and so many things. If Wazuans can buy some of these products of ours, then we can link with your people and buy food from them. And you know even the link - Internet/evernet has it's own spin offs. That way, we can really talk business. Otherwise, you need to realize that had there been markets for these products you wouldn't even be toying with the ideas, the market you are expecting would have done that long ago.
mkonomtupu
#13 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:58:08 PM
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@washiku, my first business was that of a broker buying maize horticulture from farmers in December, you had to buy the best produce because that's what the consumer wants. You buy only from the very best farmers with good produce. That's the way the market works it helps those who help themselves and does not forgive those who don't know what they are doing. I burnt my fingers trying being nice to farmers by buying produce which was below consumer standards to assist farmers get school fees, medical bills. I didn't see those farmers coming to assist me so please please come to river road sometimes huko nyamakima na marikiti and see how the brokers and the market works it's very very unforgiving. My idea is to let the market work those farmers will naturally up their game to match consumer tastes and standards just like any other producer. You start organizing them you will end up like the coffee sector wachana nayo!!!
Bigchick
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:27:45 PM
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washiku wrote:
Am wrote:
Noble Idea. Your your target No is a hindrance though. The smaller the No of people the higher the chances of success. Wish you well.
Aha. What number would you suggest @Am? 1000? 500? I dont wana bite too much you know.
Start with a small number of serious farmers Max 200.You will go through the learning curve as you implement the idea. Secondly they must also make some contribution say 10% of the cost as this will help in their commitment. Let them know its business not NGO work. Good luck.
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washiku
#15 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:35:22 PM
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Thanks guys...I am taking notes. Thnks @Bigchick & @Mkonomtupu
Gordon Gekko
#16 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:38:13 PM
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I'm a believer in organic growth. Let people morph to your ideal level naturally - this also creates buy-in. Initially let's provide basic reliable infrastructure (water, roads, power) then let them grow to other needs - credit needs, market access etc. Also, all counties (for lack of a better differentiator) are at different development levels, hence one shoe cant fit all.
McReggae
#17 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:41:50 PM
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10000 is more than enough to form a farmers co-operative society!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
digitek1
#18 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:31:11 PM
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operation mwolyo out!
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
wa P
#19 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:08:52 PM
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Try the value chain way. Example: Chicken business 1. 100 farmers who have minimum x amount of land each recruited (they provide land) 2. 50 youths from the area recruited, trained on how to make the best chicken coops, maintenance. Equip them with tools and skills (they provide high quality chicken quarters and maintenance at competitive rates to no. 1) 3. 100 farmers trained to hatch. let them devise best practice on hatching and breeding chicks to 30 days. (they provide chicks to no.1 on competitive basis) 4. 3 x 50 farmers each to build a chicken feed facility and produce high quality feed; best quality/ best price basis. 5. 100 farmers to be mobilized for marketing the chicken products. Give them specialized training and build their specialization. They shall compete with best prices at farm gate. 6. Each group above to second 3 members to a management company that ensures capacity building , training, fund raising....
Mukiri
#20 Posted : Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:23:26 PM
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McReggae wrote:
10000 is more than enough to form a farmers co-operative society!
smhSad Some comments yawah! Omera, other than drinking and singing the fisherman's praises what are you(and him) doing to improve the livelihoods of the impoverished people back home?
Proverbs 19:21
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