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Obama overtaken in Forbes world’s most powerful people
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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Edge by Putin of Russia! Rink > Kwani what is the measure? I thought kina @McReggae and @Masukuma are equally powerful? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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enyewe obama is too fickle - even after talking tough on syria, the russians swiftly got their way.
Plus when a president flaunts his muscles on a horse - he has to be powerful.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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That compilation was done by Forbes magazine,...whose owner and editor-in-chief Steve Forbes is a rabid Republican and anti-Obama fanatic. Read this: http://www.forbes.com/si...ey-will-win-decisively/
and this: http://www.forbes.com/si...re-powerful-than-obama/
and make your own conclusions ....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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That list is laughable ... It has Joaquin Guzman Loera, a mexican drug lord at position 69.  Kim Jong Un of peasant North Korea at 46 outranks Park Geun-hye of industrial giant S Korea at 52 and Shinzo Abe of Japan!!!! HOW?? Some woman called Jill Abramson who edits the New York Times is more powerful than Sepp Blatter of FIFA. The premiers of Canada, Australia, very rich nations,..are missing. So is Kirchner of Argentina. Industry titans like Sheryl Sandberg, Indra Nooyi and Marissa Mayer are also missing, yet Ginny Rommetty of IBM is in. Mario Draghi of the European Central Bank outranks Christine Lagarde of IMF, which is global. Tim Cook, CEO of Apple with revenues of 170 billion and 471 billion dollars market cap, is more powerful than Dilma Rousseff, who is in charge of the whole of Brazil, 8th most powerful nation on earth with a GDP of 2.25 trillion dollars. Ridiculous.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:That list is laughable ... It has Joaquin Guzman Loera, a mexican drug lord at position 69. Kim Jong Un of peasant North Korea at 46 outranks Park Geun-hye of industrial giant S Korea at 52 and Shinzo Abe of Japan!!!! HOW?? Some woman called Jill Abramson who edits the New York Times is more powerful than Sepp Blatter of FIFA. The premiers of Canada, Australia, very rich nations,..are missing. So is Kirchner of Argentina. Industry titans like Sheryl Sandberg, Indra Nooyi and Marissa Mayer are also missing, yet Ginny Rommetty of IBM is in. Mario Draghi of the European Central Bank outranks Christine Lagarde of IMF, which is global. Tim Cook, CEO of Apple with revenues of 170 billion and 471 billion dollars market cap, is more powerful than Dilma Rousseff, who is in charge of the whole of Brazil, 8th most powerful nation on earth with a GDP of 2.25 trillion dollars. Ridiculous. power is about effect! I put it to you that premiers of some Nordic nations may be weaker than Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. Aliko Dangote is no. 69 way ahead of various heads of state. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Wapi Johnny Walker jamaneni...a man who can hold ICC by the balls and marshall African heads of state to his side are surely!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:quicksand wrote:That list is laughable ... It has Joaquin Guzman Loera, a mexican drug lord at position 69. Kim Jong Un of peasant North Korea at 46 outranks Park Geun-hye of industrial giant S Korea at 52 and Shinzo Abe of Japan!!!! HOW?? Some woman called Jill Abramson who edits the New York Times is more powerful than Sepp Blatter of FIFA. The premiers of Canada, Australia, very rich nations,..are missing. So is Kirchner of Argentina. Industry titans like Sheryl Sandberg, Indra Nooyi and Marissa Mayer are also missing, yet Ginny Rommetty of IBM is in. Mario Draghi of the European Central Bank outranks Christine Lagarde of IMF, which is global. Tim Cook, CEO of Apple with revenues of 170 billion and 471 billion dollars market cap, is more powerful than Dilma Rousseff, who is in charge of the whole of Brazil, 8th most powerful nation on earth with a GDP of 2.25 trillion dollars. Ridiculous. power is about effect! I put it to you that premiers of some Nordic nations may be weaker than Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. Aliko Dangote is no. 69 way ahead of various heads of state. I get that ...but the list is skewed IMHO ...we are talking global here. Take the case of Abramson vs Blatter, the New York Times editor ...how many people on earth read that publication? It is not even syndicated on our local news outlets ...compare that to the number of people who love football and Blatter's deep reach into matters football..it does not compute. You mention that premiers of Nordic nations may not have as large an effect as Jon Stewart (or equivalent),..but this is clearly a case of publicity ...there is real power (influence), e.g when the US makes forays into countries like Afghanistan, it seeks support from quiet heads of nations like Canada, Australia, Nordic countries ..if these guys don't approve, the scale of operations is reduced. That is power. I leave you with this clip which is very succinct: http://www.youtube.com/w...ZUpwvweFIR8&t=0m20s
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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quicksand wrote:masukuma wrote:quicksand wrote:That list is laughable ... It has Joaquin Guzman Loera, a mexican drug lord at position 69. Kim Jong Un of peasant North Korea at 46 outranks Park Geun-hye of industrial giant S Korea at 52 and Shinzo Abe of Japan!!!! HOW?? Some woman called Jill Abramson who edits the New York Times is more powerful than Sepp Blatter of FIFA. The premiers of Canada, Australia, very rich nations,..are missing. So is Kirchner of Argentina. Industry titans like Sheryl Sandberg, Indra Nooyi and Marissa Mayer are also missing, yet Ginny Rommetty of IBM is in. Mario Draghi of the European Central Bank outranks Christine Lagarde of IMF, which is global. Tim Cook, CEO of Apple with revenues of 170 billion and 471 billion dollars market cap, is more powerful than Dilma Rousseff, who is in charge of the whole of Brazil, 8th most powerful nation on earth with a GDP of 2.25 trillion dollars. Ridiculous. power is about effect! I put it to you that premiers of some Nordic nations may be weaker than Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. Aliko Dangote is no. 69 way ahead of various heads of state. I get that ...but the list is skewed IMHO ...we are talking global here. Take the case of Abramson vs Blatter, the New York Times editor ...how many people on earth read that publication? It is not even syndicated on our local news outlets ...compare that to the number of people who love football and Blatter's deep reach into matters football..it does not compute. You mention that premiers of Nordic nations may not have as large an effect as Jon Stewart (or equivalent),..but this is clearly a case of publicity ...there is real power (influence), e.g when the US makes forays into countries like Afghanistan, it seeks support from quiet heads of nations like Canada, Australia, Nordic countries ..if these guys don't approve, the scale of operations is reduced. That is power. I leave you with this clip which is very succinct: http://www.youtube.com/w...ZUpwvweFIR8&t=0m20s
I think you are looking at the issue from the wrong end, this quiet Nordic premiers who you say will be consulted by the US will in almost every instance side with the US due to common interest, i.e. queue behind Obama. However, the editor of NY times etc has the ability to rally people against something or another that will force Obama to change tack on an issue. Obama has been significantly weakened by the Republicans but there is no way one can conclude that Putin is now more powerful, in any case he forced the republicans to back down on the govt shut down and has now taken the Obamacare fight to them. My 2 cents. Syria alone is not enough not justify putins power, currently, russia has absolutely no influence where it matters. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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