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Todays woman cannot make wise decisions!?
segemia
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:29:29 AM
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Hey guys let us not go very far, right here in Kenya.

A couple of months ago, certain elderly pastor told a congregation that modern day women in Kenya are unmarriable.

The women spewed all sorts of epithets at him and non of these women came forward to tell the pastor why their peers in sixties and seventies were better than them!!!
Mukiri
#12 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:29:59 AM
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radio wrote:
Mukiri wrote:


Personally I'd luv to hear your educated views on if a woman left to her own devices, is capable of making sound decisions. Examples?


Oh really @Mukiri? That no woman can make sound decisions on her own?

Example
Wangari Mathai- to protect the environment. And what were you doing apart from kuchoma makaa?

What kind of women do you hangout with?


Come srore, don't shoot the messenger. Was our late Nobel laureate married? Does it mean for a woman to achieve great accomplishments the family has to suffer? Is that justified?

Proverbs 19:21
quicksand
#13 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:42:17 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
radio wrote:
Mukiri wrote:


Personally I'd luv to hear your educated views on if a woman left to her own devices, is capable of making sound decisions. Examples?


Oh really @Mukiri? That no woman can make sound decisions on her own?

Example
Wangari Mathai- to protect the environment. And what were you doing apart from kuchoma makaa?

What kind of women do you hangout with?


Come srore, don't shoot the messenger. Was our late Nobel laureate married? Does it mean for a woman to achieve great accomplishments the family has to suffer? Is that justified?

Yes she was. Then got divorced. So what?
There are lots of women who are doing excellently and also have families ...for example, Sheryl Sandberg, Marissa Mayer, Safra Catz, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Beckham ...the list is endless. These examples ought to answer your question about women making sound decisions on their own as a resounding yes.
There are also women (and men) who have not accomplished greatly and the family still suffered.
If you can't interact and have meaningful relationships with successful women, that is your problem. There will only be more of them as time marches. Those who can't adapt, die.
Mukiri
#14 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:51:07 AM
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quicksand wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
radio wrote:
Mukiri wrote:


Personally I'd luv to hear your educated views on if a woman left to her own devices, is capable of making sound decisions. Examples?


Oh really @Mukiri? That no woman can make sound decisions on her own?

Example
Wangari Mathai- to protect the environment. And what were you doing apart from kuchoma makaa?

What kind of women do you hangout with?


Come srore, don't shoot the messenger. Was our late Nobel laureate married? Does it mean for a woman to achieve great accomplishments the family has to suffer? Is that justified?

Yes she was. Then got divorced. So what?
There are lots of women who are doing excellently and also have families ...for example, Sheryl Sandberg, Marissa Mayer, Safra Catz, Hillary Clinton, Victoria Beckham ...the list is endless. These examples ought to answer your question about women making sound decisions on their own as a resounding yes.
There are also women (and men) who have not accomplished greatly and the family still suffered.
If you can't interact and have meaningful relationships with successful women, that is your problem. There will only be more of them as time marches. Those who can't adapt, die.

I hope @guru is reading this.

Proverbs 19:21
Nyaiira
#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:02:47 AM
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Yes women can and in fact are doing and still doing it. Women take the major roles in the house, and even its well known in the marriages she makes the decision, but sometimes let you think you made, in other instances she lets you so that you fell like the man in the house, but dig deep and you will find that she was part of your decision. So how is it that single women live on their own and make decisions and move their families to heights. That is just stereotype kind of thinking anyway.
Nyaiira
#16 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:05:04 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
All Holy Books and most cultures have always subordinated women to men...

Woman emancipation began just recently after the industrial revolution... Before that women even In the USA could not think of doing things like voting!

I'm all for my rights and all but maybe there was a reason the Holy Books had a place for women...

Woman emancipation in my opinion has greatly contributed to destroying the modern family...

1.The emancipated woman can't do child rearing resulting in our rotten youth brought up by housegirls, watchmen and teachers...

2. The emancipated woman has created a need for two heads in the home leading to all sorts of conflicts and ego clashes between spouses...

3. The emancipated woman cannot be in polygamy therefore choosing the path of extra marital affairs for her spouse who may have a lot of love to give...

4. The emancipated woman lets other women (house girls) cook for her husband and cries later...

5. Most emancipated women think controlling their body is walking around naked and having abortions....

6. The emancipated woman is usually depressed and ready for suicide by the age of 65...


and by quoting the bible.....that was a culture thousands of years ago...and those still following the same, we know how much those society's women are fighting hard to get out of old laws...I only pity and feel sad for women in those societies.
segemia
#17 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:06:45 AM
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Nyaiira wrote:
Yes women can and in fact are doing and still doing it. Women take the major roles in the house, and even its well known in the marriages she makes the decision, but sometimes let you think you made, in other instances she lets you so that you fell like the man in the house, but dig deep and you will find that she was part of your decision. So how is it that single women live on their own and make decisions and move their families to heights. That is just stereotype kind of thinking anyway.


Rubbish!!!!
sumuni
#18 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:30:19 PM
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Rollout wrote:
You people living in the 1800s, women are as good as men in everything that doesn't involve muscles!

This kind of reasoning is what has led us to where we are now as a society.
God(for the believers) or Evolution(for the non believers) bestowed upon the sexes certain unique strengths that are in most cases complementary than competitive. Let us embrace our God given (natural) abilities and stop challenging one another.
And there are strong and weak people of both genders.
It is a curious fact that of all the illusions that beset mankind, none is quite as curious as that tendency to suppose that we are mentally and morally superior to those who differ from us in opinion.
muganda
#19 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:33:17 PM
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Can a society be judged by how it treats its women folk, just as it can be judged by how it treats its minorities, or political dissidents?

I know for a fact that you can tell how civilized a people are from their poor, orphans, disabled.

All societies have made great mess-ups in the past; we can only judge them by the direction they're heading. Watch out though, ill applied corrective actions can create a worse mess than what they aim to resolve.

Am
#20 Posted : Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:58:46 PM
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segemia wrote:
Nyaiira wrote:
Yes women can and in fact are doing and still doing it. Women take the major roles in the house, and even its well known in the marriages she makes the decision, but sometimes let you think you made, in other instances she lets you so that you fell like the man in the house, but dig deep and you will find that she was part of your decision. So how is it that single women live on their own and make decisions and move their families to heights. That is just stereotype kind of thinking anyway.


Rubbish!!!!


RUBBISH2
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