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Obi 1 Kanobi
#51 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 11:19:00 AM
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@Shak,I agree with you.

I also would like to see ethnic language bans in places of work,including government offices. After 50 years of calling ourselves 1 country,there is no reason why someone should claim to not understand Swahili or English.

If our cultures are detrimental to the survival of our country,then lets get rid of them.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
adept
#52 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 11:53:00 AM
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@ogutuwalwanga - That's a massive point.
Kaigangio
#53 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 12:42:00 PM
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to end tribalism this is the solution,


The government should consider changing all our names to kiswahili ones..and this it would begin by destroying all the previous records related to birth and writting new ones with the new names. All our original certificates,IDs and any other documents bearing our current names to be destroyed and issued with new ones having new names.
The government would need to destroy all the documents in its various offices with a mention of tribe and rewrite them differently.
The government to enforce that all school going children to be compusorily taught kiswahili all the way upto the university level... Compusory!!! More emphasis to be put on kiswahili than english.
The government to create an equal opportunity for all irrespective of the region of origin.
Reducing the Mpigs salaries by 90% (to about 100k) so that it is not attractive. This will have the effect of candidates not inciting people against others perceived to be opposition.
Having an effective and working judiciary.


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Brewer
#54 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 12:47:00 PM
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There are people who derive direct benefit from the preaching of hate and SK is not immune from them. Hate is a great weapon in politics. Question is,are we able to ensure they do not cash the hate cheque at the ballot box?
leona
#55 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:02:00 PM
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Joined: 8/1/2008
Posts: 1,432
Location: Marsabit
I dont think our politicians,our tribes,our ID cards or anybody is to blame for tribalism in this country...I think WE are the problem.

Why are we bothered by someones tribe anyway? If we chose to embrace the diverse tribes in Kenya,then we'd go very far unlike when we chose to shun the 40+ tribes for us to be united. Changing our names or refusing to talk in our mother tongue is not a solution. Embrace other tribes..and you'll see the beauty of our diversity. Some of us are soooo obviously look alikes of our tribesmen and carry very heavy maternal accents,we cannot even pretend to belong to another tribe even if our names were changed!

Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't..
Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
Kaigangio
#56 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:19:00 PM
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@ leona,

it may help in fact to the extent that we can never imagine. You see after the abolition of slave trade the blacks in the americas who were drawn from west and east africa were rounded up and settled in the Carribeans. if today this guy talks you will not know if it was a Nigerian,Senegalese,Ghanian,a Kenyan,Tanzanian etc. Even the names they use would never tell you about their origin....

We would not expect some of these measures to bear any fruits immediately,but it would be a good start of a long journey to ending a nagging monister.


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
leona
#57 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:25:00 PM
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@Kagizzard
True,but these were all blacks...do you imagine if they were blacks and asians/chinese?

Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't..
Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
Kaigangio
#58 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:37:00 PM
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@ leona,

Actually the population of kenya is about 95% indigenous people. the rest are the whites and the indians.

The waring lot are these 95% and not the 5%. So,let us tame these 95%....

On a different note,today is a Furahiday...what are your plans? I know kililimbi is out...hauna jina huko....leo niko na simu...size ya walkie-talkie..no thief is ever interested in this...


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Chaka
#59 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:44:00 PM
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Joined: 2/16/2007
Posts: 2,114
I think the name 'Kiambaa',as given to the place by the 'settlers' must be very irritating to the locals.Someone should tell them to change it?
B.Timer
#60 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2009 1:52:00 PM
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Usual grandstanding and turning everything into a political chess game.
What is a third party observer likely to conclude from yesterdays no show when we have been de;uding everybody that we are healing as a country.
We are a pathetic lot.
Look how some in our number are trying to apologise for what is clearly inexcusable posturing.
Tunaijaji maombi ya kesha.
Wapi prophet Awour,he of the swiming pool baptism fame.

B.timer
Dunia ni msongamano..
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