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KDF looting video.......Watch and listen carefully.
jaggernaut
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:58:46 PM
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Much Know wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
White items are cups

And nakumatt paperbags, working up Kenyan's into a frenzy, They are not mobile phones as BBC is obviously lying, hizo ni vikombe at most not even a pack of condoms or chewing gum, that's why i am saying we wait for the other side of the story, and it is today, did anyone here ask for their key's to be retrieved from inside? Their children will sleep outside blah, blah..ngoja uhondo....others went to stone the officers because of their cars, where is the full story....others were cooking food and giving officers, ambulances, a policeman was arrested with a wallet cash, and ID, by who? and why? you have just been given a story that westgate was a theft by army of paper-bags and plastic caps and shooting recce, which you believe.


A lynch mob never stops until they see the blood of their victim. It's only after the victim is dead that the mob members start to ask rational questions.
tassia
#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:00:46 PM
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I think we are missing the point. No need for many stories. KDF was in charge. If they did not loot, they need to tell Kenyan's who looted. Whatever is in those bags or whatever is immaterial.
muganda
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:00:48 PM
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@jaggernaut I've shopped at Nakumatt Westgate.
The purple counter is, in fact, an MPesa stall.

jaggernaut wrote:
alma wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
The BBC report has very many facts wrong (i bet deliberately made to build the looting story). Anyone who has shopped at nakumatt westgate will know that the phonexpress counter was on the opposite side i.e to the right as you enter the supermarket and is not visible in the video. Where those soldiers are picking white items was customer care shelf and therefore those can't be phones. The purplish store at the door (to the right of the video) where some soldiers are getting in was also not a phone shop.


@jag I would love you on my corner any day.

Do you have an idea which day this was?


What I don't like is everyone being too emotional and not looking at the facts. This lynch mob behavior is not good and will not help if we are to understand what really went on in there.

Much Know
#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:01:23 PM
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Is this the only video? Seems moha was sold only a section of it, someone said there are other clips to be "leaked", can macreggae check with twitter rumor monger, we need to see, or at wikileaks, this one was SOLD to BBC the highest bidder....maybe in another clip they are leaving with flatsreens...
Ras Kienyeji Man
KulaRaha
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:03:17 PM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
Much Know wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
White items are cups

And nakumatt paperbags, working up Kenyan's into a frenzy, They are not mobile phones as BBC is obviously lying, hizo ni vikombe at most not even a pack of condoms or chewing gum, that's why i am saying we wait for the other side of the story, and it is today, did anyone here ask for their key's to be retrieved from inside? Their children will sleep outside blah, blah..ngoja uhondo....others went to stone the officers because of their cars, where is the full story....others were cooking food and giving officers, ambulances, a policeman was arrested with a wallet cash, and ID, by who? and why? you have just been given a story that westgate was a theft by army of paper-bags and plastic caps and shooting recce, which you believe.


So, pray tell, who stole all the cash and jewelry from the shops?

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Much Know
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:05:18 PM
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Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,590
KulaRaha wrote:
Much Know wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
White items are cups

And nakumatt paperbags, working up Kenyan's into a frenzy, They are not mobile phones as BBC is obviously lying, hizo ni vikombe at most not even a pack of condoms or chewing gum, that's why i am saying we wait for the other side of the story, and it is today, did anyone here ask for their key's to be retrieved from inside? Their children will sleep outside blah, blah..ngoja uhondo....others went to stone the officers because of their cars, where is the full story....others were cooking food and giving officers, ambulances, a policeman was arrested with a wallet cash, and ID, by who? and why? you have just been given a story that westgate was a theft by army of paper-bags and plastic caps and shooting recce, which you believe.


So, pray tell, who stole all the cash and jewelry from the shops?


Has Ms. Anyango the manager been properly grilled? The one who dived through a vent, you tell us who stole, you seem to know.
Ras Kienyeji Man
jaggernaut
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:06:02 PM
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muganda wrote:
@jaggernaut I've shopped at Nakumatt Westgate.
The purple counter is, in fact, an MPesa stall.

jaggernaut wrote:
alma wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
The BBC report has very many facts wrong (i bet deliberately made to build the looting story). Anyone who has shopped at nakumatt westgate will know that the phonexpress counter was on the opposite side i.e to the right as you enter the supermarket and is not visible in the video. Where those soldiers are picking white items was customer care shelf and therefore those can't be phones. The purplish store at the door (to the right of the video) where some soldiers are getting in was also not a phone shop.


@jag I would love you on my corner any day.

Do you have an idea which day this was?


What I don't like is everyone being too emotional and not looking at the facts. This lynch mob behavior is not good and will not help if we are to understand what really went on in there.



I know, all i said is that it is not a phone shop as the BBC report is saying.
maka
#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:06:59 PM
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Location: Nairobi
KulaRaha wrote:
Much Know wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
White items are cups

And nakumatt paperbags, working up Kenyan's into a frenzy, They are not mobile phones as BBC is obviously lying, hizo ni vikombe at most not even a pack of condoms or chewing gum, that's why i am saying we wait for the other side of the story, and it is today, did anyone here ask for their key's to be retrieved from inside? Their children will sleep outside blah, blah..ngoja uhondo....others went to stone the officers because of their cars, where is the full story....others were cooking food and giving officers, ambulances, a policeman was arrested with a wallet cash, and ID, by who? and why? you have just been given a story that westgate was a theft by army of paper-bags and plastic caps and shooting recce, which you believe.


So, pray tell, who stole all the cash and jewelry from the shops?



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alma
#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:11:08 PM
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@jag and @muchknow

You seem to have lost the plot a long time ago. The issue of looting is a national calamity and shame that's carried by all of us.

But that's not the real story is it jag?

Question is, what was the kdf doing in that building for 3 days when it seems that the terrorists left on Saturday. This video only goes to confirm the fact that the kdf in that building were taking it easy.

Taking it so easy that much know in another thread advices us that they were having some beers together with muhindis and red cross personnel.

So why punish Kenyans for 3 days?

What was the motive?

How come the only bodies that you seem to have recovered are 4 or 5 terrorists? Right after the Namu video.

What happened to the hostages you claimed were in there?

We are not that slow my friend. Something rotten happened in this westgate and the more you lie the more the lynch mob as you now call Kenyans is going to doubt you and ask you questions.

Can someone get KDF a better spin doctor. The current lot is sad.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Much Know
#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:17:16 PM
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alma wrote:
@jag and @muchknow

So why punish Kenyans for 3 days?

What was the motive?


What of stock-taking, to forestall/ prevent thieves and other weird claims like yours.....ask shop owners how they went back in? Before you take anything moha feeds you for truth, come to think of it, why did he not?
Ras Kienyeji Man
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