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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,590
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Njung'e wrote:[
The burden of proof lies with the soldiers.By now they should/would have provided a 2 second video clip showing the soldiers drinking the damn water Why by now and not today night? Then give them a fair hearing today. They are not fools, parliament cleared them, they have their inventories of the whole situation, maybe Ms. Anyango is the thief, as for Mohas clips, nakumatt/westgate sio nduka ya mamake huko garrissa lodge, neither si ya nyanya wa Pike "the star", neither does it belong to those ODM idiots making noise in parliament!! Let's us understand the procedure followed to drink water, let us hear the other side of the story. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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The question here is very simple. When KDF came in, everyone who was in the mall was kicked out including recce. The building was left to KDF and the terrorists. Not only the building but the whole compound because even journalist were taken many meters away from the compound. No one could access westgate after that, not even relatives who had not traced their relatives. At that time, KDF was in charge and no one could walk into westgate compound.
If KDF did not loot, they surely know who looted and that is what this should not be telling us. We do not want to hear what was in those paperbags or whatever. They were in charge, let them tell us who looted
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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marko wrote:mkeiyd wrote:marko wrote:Njung'e wrote:@Marko,
Let me start here and i hope you will spin something sensible otherwise you risk a slap from the old man.
Oooops.Can't attach the picture but will try later but below is a quote from the shop manager.
Irene Anyango, manager of a Westgate jewellery shop, is one of the few people who has been allowed into the mall following the end of the siege.
"It was a nightmare… and the shop was a totally different place," she told the BBC.
Ms Anyango said 90% of the jewellery was missing from the shop, which is now flooded.
"As far as we know, for the last couple of days they were intact - we don't understand what's happening but they're not there," she said.
Kindly explain! (No marks for trying) Good morning old man. Let us start from there, shall we? The lady says that the jewelry disappeared. FACT. Lets us analyse the videos. ONE shows KDF soldiers entering NAKUMATT and leaving with paperbags. TRUE.
The second video shows soldiers in a jewelry shop and leaving without touching anything. TRUE.Now if the soldiers were busy looting everything in sight while the cctv was rolling,why did they not loot the jewelry shop? Tuanzie hapo. @Marko! Marko! Marko! Are you saying we saw ALL the footage from ALL the cameras? We saw SOME video clips from SOME cameras. Just coz we didn't "see" it doesn't mean it never happened. As you defend the forces, rem to tell us where/how the lost stuff got out of that mall. Rem that. Find the ambulances and those who manned them and you will get your looters. @Marko , You find them, i got KDF. Keep on playing that guitar to this billy goat and you have a chance of getting a gig. At the time when the mall was sealed off, allowing only KDF to gain entry,ambulance guys got in,broke saves,stole every other valuable without KDF noticing. They know no TERRORIST escaped,but didn't see stuff disappear.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Much Know wrote:Njung'e wrote:[
The burden of proof lies with the soldiers.By now they should/would have provided a 2 second video clip showing the soldiers drinking the damn water Why by now and not today night? Then give them a fair hearing today. They are not fools, parliament cleared them, they have their inventories of the whole situation, maybe Ms. Anyango is the thief, as for Mohas clips, nakumatt/westgate sio nduka ya mamake huko garrissa lodge, neither si ya nyanya wa Pike "the star", neither does it belong to those ODM idiots making noise in parliament!! Let's us understand the procedure followed to drink water, let us hear the other side of the story. A true Lootenant you are going by hio matusi.You swore to protect your mother country but we can see you are doing exactly that by first protecting yourself.Poor we! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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KDF in serious need of a Spin Doctor.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/20/2009 Posts: 1,402
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jaggernaut wrote:Security forces normally secure valuables from a crime scene for safe keeping. It's SOP. in the spirit of Ke@50, you should get your rank back @jagg
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/1/2008 Posts: 834
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rryyzz wrote:ecstacy wrote:The Military spokesman Major E K Chirchir via social media has promised to issue details of what transpired at Westgate via a media blog.
The military are also scheduled to hold a press conference tomorrow 23/10/13 on the same.
This should interest anyone looking to get to the bottom of what really happened at Westgate during the military operation. Why are we busy pointing fingers at KDF yet as a society we lost it long time ago  . An oil tanker overturns and kenyans rush to the scene to help themselves, even sachangwan is not enough to scare them. Any truck overturning on our roads is sure to be looted of its cargo. Accident victims have their pockets emptied by so called good samaritans. This is the society we live in, so why do we expect KDF to be any different from us???? Just asking and please lets not start with the holier than thou attitude.They are just a reflection of us. Right now, no one is questioning why westgate happened,and bringing people to account. Trust you me, westgate will be forgotten once we are done with accusing KDF of looting. indeed!!! weren't they recruited amongst us...??? If you are going to be thinking only one thing, you might as well be thinking big. -Donald J . Trump
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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livie wrote:rryyzz wrote:ecstacy wrote:The Military spokesman Major E K Chirchir via social media has promised to issue details of what transpired at Westgate via a media blog.
The military are also scheduled to hold a press conference tomorrow 23/10/13 on the same.
This should interest anyone looking to get to the bottom of what really happened at Westgate during the military operation. Why are we busy pointing fingers at KDF yet as a society we lost it long time ago . An oil tanker overturns and kenyans rush to the scene to help themselves, even sachangwan is not enough to scare them. Any truck overturning on our roads is sure to be looted of its cargo. Accident victims have their pockets emptied by so called good samaritans. This is the society we live in, so why do we expect KDF to be any different from us???? Just asking and please lets not start with the holier than thou attitude.They are just a reflection of us. Right now, no one is questioning why westgate happened,and bringing people to account. Trust you me, westgate will be forgotten once we are done with accusing KDF of looting. indeed!!! weren't they recruited amongst us...??? I don't know where you guys are from, but where I'm from we don't loot from the dead. My mother would hit you with a mwiko if she heard you stole or thought about stealing. And I'm very Kenyan. Use words like, "me" not "us" next time. Don't paint looters and thieves as Kenyans. Most Kenyans are hardworking and have never stolen. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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livie wrote:rryyzz wrote:ecstacy wrote:The Military spokesman Major E K Chirchir via social media has promised to issue details of what transpired at Westgate via a media blog.
The military are also scheduled to hold a press conference tomorrow 23/10/13 on the same.
This should interest anyone looking to get to the bottom of what really happened at Westgate during the military operation. Why are we busy pointing fingers at KDF yet as a society we lost it long time ago . An oil tanker overturns and kenyans rush to the scene to help themselves, even sachangwan is not enough to scare them. Any truck overturning on our roads is sure to be looted of its cargo. Accident victims have their pockets emptied by so called good samaritans. This is the society we live in, so why do we expect KDF to be any different from us???? Just asking and please lets not start with the holier than thou attitude.They are just a reflection of us. Right now, no one is questioning why westgate happened,and bringing people to account. Trust you me, westgate will be forgotten once we are done with accusing KDF of looting. indeed!!! weren't they recruited amongst us...??? Hapana.. nimekataa.. nisihesabiwe kwa hili genge la majambazi... I am Kenyan and I am different! I have never given a bribe to join or have any of my relations taken into the KDF.. Hii pia ni matunda ya corruption.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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Muheani wrote:KDF in serious need of a Spin Doctor. Disagree. Kenyans are not stupid. You may lie blatantly and you may get away with it but you will never wash away the stain if this happens. Why do you think Kenyans so deeply distrust the police? The KDF brass needs to admit that KDF committed a terrible crime, apologize and then go ahead and court-martial the soldiers who did it. Then the brass itself needs to fall on the sword. Only when justice has been done and seen to be done will people recognize that yes, KDF is human, humans make mistakes but we can find the strength to forgive them. Spinning stories is just showing that they are unrepentant, arrogant and are insulting our intelligence as the Kenyan citizenry.
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