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Antibacterial soaps - not necessary
2012
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:16:17 PM
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I get shocked at how marketers have turned antibacterial soaps into this cool thing. When did the normal soaps stop being effective? Or did the number of bacteria in the world suddenly multiply?
Do you know that not all bacteria is bad for your skin? Infact some bacteria held your skin in every way.

BBI will solve it
:)
seppuku
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:16:45 PM
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@2012, I don't understand your last sentence. However, I think you have a point. I personally do not see any difference between using ordinary soap and using anti-bacterial soap. Nevertheless, mimi napenda harufu ya Dettol Original so that is why I use it. Are you suggesting I might be annihilating friendly bacteria?
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:19:48 PM
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I am told they are not good for bathing coz they kill even the good / necessary bacteria found in the airport and this can cause infections. Only good for hand washing.
Lord, thank you!
Euge
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:24:00 PM
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And salt is the best antiseptic.
Lord, thank you!
tycho
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:27:28 PM
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While bacterial soap may not be necessary, making money and increasing wealth may be deemed as necessary. Or to keep up with the Jones's.

So far, it's either you make the money, or you be made the money.
Mukiri
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:33:36 PM
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Bacterial soaps, just like anti-biotics, should only be used when one has disease! And after use, find a way to replenish good bacteria.

These are the lessons children should be taught in school. I see people popping anti-biotics and thinking nothing of it!

Proverbs 19:21
2012
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:30:01 PM
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seppuku wrote:
@2012, I don't understand your last sentence. However, I think you have a point. I personally do not see any difference between using ordinary soap and using anti-bacterial soap. Nevertheless, mimi napenda harufu ya Dettol Original so that is why I use it. Are you suggesting I might be annihilating friendly bacteria?


Exactly what Euge has said, they kill the gpod bacteria too when they kill 99.9% germs.

BBI will solve it
:)
dunkang
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:40:15 PM
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We were used to;
' approved by Kenyan Medical Association'.
Nowadays we there is one soap that state;
' Approved by African Medical Association'.
Next i can see a 'Approved by Global Medical Association'.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:22:33 PM
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load of bullcrap! sabuni ya kipande is sufficient for all your washing needs. Hizo antiseptics wameongeza then the colour and fragrance (soory to burst the bubble it is not antiseptic that you smell but fragrance) only increase chances of allergic reactions and skin inflammations and infections the latter especially by eliminating good symbiotic bacteria that survive on the skin. they leave the skin vulnerable. In fact most dermatologists recommend sabuni ya miti/kipande for those with allergic reactions. lotions ndio zingine. NKT! Sabuni ya kifande na Arimi's for life
"Money never sleeps"
butterflyke
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:10:29 PM
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dunkang wrote:
We were used to;
' approved by Kenyan Medical Association'.
Nowadays we there is one soap that state;
' Approved by African Medical Association'.
Next i can see a 'Approved by Global Medical Association'.


reminds me of something else that turned from personal challenge to african to global....metamorphosis nayo smile

i like the scent of dettol cool soap
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
kysse
#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:17:16 PM
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I once bathed with Axion for dish washing and nothing happened.
Another time I used omo,and became white but still ok.
I love dettol, but I won't lose sleep if I don't have it,Sabuni ni povu.

And just how did people stay clean in old soapless days?


butterflyke
#12 Posted : Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:27:22 PM
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kysse wrote:
I once bathed with Axion for dish washing and nothing happened.
Another time I used omo,and became white but still ok.
I love dettol, but I won't lose sleep if I don't have it,Sabuni ni povu.

And just how did people stay clean in old soapless days?




Laughing out loudly, honestly i read that first line without seeing who had posted and knew it had to be you smile

sabuni ni povu
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
kysse
#13 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:00:08 AM
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butterflyke wrote:
kysse wrote:
I once bathed with Axion for dish washing and nothing happened.
Another time I used omo,and became white but still ok.
I love dettol, but I won't lose sleep if I don't have it,Sabuni ni povu.

And just how did people stay clean in old soapless days?




Laughing out loudly, honestly i read that first line without seeing who had posted and knew it had to be you smile

sabuni ni povu

dunkang
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:31:03 AM
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butterflyke wrote:
dunkang wrote:
We were used to;
' approved by Kenyan Medical Association'.
Nowadays we there is one soap that state;
' Approved by African Medical Association'.
Next i can see a 'Approved by Global Medical Association'.


reminds me of something else that turned from personal challenge to african to global....metamorphosis nayo smile

i like the scent of dettol cool soap

All this 'approved by' and 'recommended by' BS, aren't they just marketing gimmicks, to win your confidence?

#Sabuni_Ni_Povu
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

2012
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:41:09 AM
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Something is definitely wrong when antibacterial soaps advertise more than telecos. You are more likely to see a Dettol, Protex, Safeguard soap tv ad than a Safaricom, Airtel or Yu ad and that is very unusual.
That tells you the idea is to play on our health consciousness' fears into making these soaps part of our lifestyle and it's really working. This is so not the norm in developed countries.

BBI will solve it
:)
rryyzz
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 9:01:29 AM
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kysse wrote:
I once bathed with Axion for dish washing and nothing happened.
Another time I used omo,and became white but still ok.
I love dettol, but I won't lose sleep if I don't have it,Sabuni ni povu.

And just how did people stay clean in old soapless days?



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly @kysse are you for real. Axion & Omo???only @kysse can pull such stunts.
Lakini ukweli ni kwamba, in Kenya label anything herbal, & for sabunis antibacterial, and you're sure to sell.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:02:42 AM
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2012 wrote:
I get shocked at how marketers have turned antibacterial soaps into this cool thing. When did the normal soaps stop being effective? Or did the number of bacteria in the world suddenly multiply?
Do you know that not all bacteria is bad for your skin? Infact some bacteria held your skin in every way.


Normal flora is the name.
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
seppuku
#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:11:39 AM
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Money Whisperer wrote:
load of bullcrap! sabuni ya kipande is sufficient for all your washing needs. Hizo antiseptics wameongeza then the colour and fragrance (soory to burst the bubble it is not antiseptic that you smell but fragrance) only increase chances of allergic reactions and skin inflammations and infections the latter especially by eliminating good symbiotic bacteria that survive on the skin. they leave the skin vulnerable. In fact most dermatologists recommend sabuni ya miti/kipande for those with allergic reactions. lotions ndio zingine. NKT! Sabuni ya kifande na Arimi's for life


Hapo kwa Arimi's I will disagree. The thing doesn't quite "enter" into the skin. Leaves you feeling as if you are preparing to be shallow fried. The other day I also read that anti-bacterial mouthwash causes mouth cancer. Hygiene can be complicated! But then again, maybe WE complicate it ourselves.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
seppuku
#19 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:15:42 AM
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kysse wrote:
I once bathed with Axion for dish washing and nothing happened.
Another time I used omo,and became white but still ok.
I love dettol, but I won't lose sleep if I don't have it,Sabuni ni povu.

And just how did people stay clean in old soapless days?




Well, I used to have a friend who swore by the purity of showering with water ALONE. He stunk a bit, I must confess - and when he scratched his skin his fingernails left marks of a light shade of gray. But he is still alive. Maybe he will outlive us. smile
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:23:09 AM
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And how come all these antibacterial soaps are said to kill 99.9% of all germs? Never seen any that kills 100%.
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