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Is stock trading harmful to the economy?
mv_ufanisi
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:41:48 PM
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Wouldn't the country be better of if a lot of smart people who spend their time and money speculating on the stock market used those resources to actually create businesses and employment? Isn't it likely that more wealth would be generated that way? Wouldn't the gurus here on Wazua probably generate more wealth building businesses that tracking the ticker?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:08:44 PM
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Nop.Some gurus here cannot run a business while some business leaders have no idea how the stock market works.Theres a perfect balance out there.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:30:20 PM
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Co-signed

bird_man wrote:
Nop.Some gurus here cannot run a business while some business leaders have no idea how the stock market works.Theres a perfect balance out there.


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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:37:35 PM
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Think IPO, Rights Issue, Dividends, Bond & their contribution to the economy
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#5 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 5:51:25 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Wouldn't the country be better of if a lot of smart people who spend their time and money speculating on the stock market used those resources to actually create businesses and employment? Isn't it likely that more wealth would be generated that way? Wouldn't the gurus here on Wazua probably generate more wealth building businesses that tracking the ticker?


You have a point. Many people think they know how to trade stocks but are just speculators. Those people should look for other ventures.
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murchr
#6 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 6:39:54 AM
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I thot the purpose of the bourse is to raise funds? Businesses simply raise funds and traders try to "profit" from it. Simple. So if everyone went ahead and started their own KCB, would there be business?

Another thing, people are different, there are those who are good starters - they can manage start-ups quite well, some of them cant handle big business thats why they sell their shares to the highest bidder who can take it to the next level.
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mkeiyd
#7 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 7:30:40 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Wouldn't the country be better of if a lot of smart people who spend their time and money speculating on the stock market used those resources to actually create businesses and employment? Isn't it likely that more wealth would be generated that way? Wouldn't the gurus here on Wazua probably generate more wealth building businesses that tracking the ticker?



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mv_ufanisi
#8 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 8:03:01 AM
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bird_man wrote:
Nop.Some gurus here cannot run a business while some business leaders have no idea how the stock market works.Theres a perfect balance out there.


The truth is at the stage of economic development that Africa is in - there is a greater need for business builders than for stock speculators. We already have an very small number of stocks on the NSE - we need entrepreneurs to grow businesses from scratch.

There's lots of good brains being lost in stock "investment" and speculation which would be better put to use.

This is also a big problem affecting the US for example where the smartest people stopped going to work for companies that produce things and create value but now head over to Wall Street to play around with tickers but not really add much value.
mv_ufanisi
#9 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 8:07:10 AM
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murchr wrote:
I thot the purpose of the bourse is to raise funds? Businesses simply raise funds and traders try to "profit" from it. Simple. So if everyone went ahead and started their own KCB, would there be business?

Another thing, people are different, there are those who are good starters - they can manage start-ups quite well, some of them cant handle big business thats why they sell their shares to the highest bidder who can take it to the next level.


Well I'm specifically referring to the fact that a majority of players here in Wazua for example are mostly watching for a way to make quick profits on companies. They'll do some research on companies and decide that this company will do better this year and so I'll put my money there.

If you're smart, its probably easy money. All I'm saying is that there's likely a lot of brains going to waste here because the truth is we are not really adding much value to the economy as a whole in terms of productive use of resources and skills gained.
mv_ufanisi
#10 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2013 8:10:48 AM
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Stock trading is like playing a game of poker. It's not a value adding activity per se.

Value adding activity would be taking your money and starting a business that actually delivers value to the economy and perhaps eventually bringing that business to the public markets.

That means that you create jobs, create products/services and gain new skills which is what leads to true wealth generation for the country as a whole.

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