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cctv footage of westgate terrorists
King G
#81 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:36:45 PM
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Guys, in all fairness and without goggles against KDF, that picture looks like they are entering and not leaving Westgate. That is why they are covering infornt and the 'IT/Doctor' guy is behing - the enemy is is facing they. It is not like they are leaving when you have to cover your arse and behind.

Kings to cent.

Disclaimer; my battlefield is throwing stones not pursuing Terrorists.
Thieves
poundfoolish
#82 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:38:50 PM
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TAZ wrote:
I've not in any way denied that KDF waliiba that to me is quite obvious, what i find hard to believe is the claim that the brief case in that photo was the one used to ferry the loot.....hizo ni propaganda za social media!

@Poundfoolish....KDF were there with rocket launchers and armoured military vehicles, they were prepared for anything. To be honest at that time no one (hata hapa Wazua) was sure what kind of weapons those terrorists had. The comabt medic is part of the infantry kwa nini awachwe nyuma.


Any other commando units watching that scene must have fallen on the floor laughing.
This would have been what any sensible security force in a country faced with terrorism would do.

1. ascertain the no. of enemies in the building. and this is done by getting info from hostages rescued. to date we are still guessing.. but inference points at about 8 armed men. those who went to the roof top, those who went in through the main door and a small party at the basement.
It is also now clear that some of the gang, mainly the foreigners (from Europe or america) who planned this thing changed clothes and left. From the BBC interview today by an FBI interrogator, he says that group, the thinkers,leaders and planners, are never ready to die for their cause and are the easiest to talk when captured. The other foot soldiers, he calls idiots, are the tough nuts to crack.

2. identify the right team to do the Job. this was an internal affairs thing.. RECCE and RDU were the best to do it. and they had contained the situation.
It these teams had experienced enough gunfire then they would have called in extra help (rangers and palamilitary from KDF) and not the Langata battalion with RPG launchers and armoured carriers?
They also had the British and Israeli commandos ready to help..

Power struggles messed as up

poundfoolish
#83 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:42:11 PM
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King G wrote:
Guys, in all fairness and without goggles against KDF, that picture looks like they are entering and not leaving Westgate. That is why they are covering infornt and the 'IT/Doctor' guy is behing - the enemy is is facing they. It is not like they are leaving when you have to cover your arse and behind.

Kings to cent.

Disclaimer; my battlefield is throwing stones not pursuing Terrorists.


That formation is very relaxed. You enter into an unknown battle zone like that, you are toast.
I'd expect them to be in a single file, Doc/IT guy towards the end then one or two guy covering the rear.

This guys were walking out then posed a bit for the camera. just incase that shot appears in the tomorrows news.

When you are entering a 'war zone' your eyes/head movement and muzzle should always be 'in line'. muzzle follows eyes.
Si kama hapa naona the guy on the right looking nyuma juu.. the next guy's muzzle facing east while he stares West..
If this is how they are trained.. iko chida
timuka
#84 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:13:21 PM
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chemos
#85 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:28:11 PM
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These guys were just to casual with the killings!!!!!! clearly kuna watu na kuna wanyama!!!!
poundfoolish
#86 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:28:17 PM
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timuka wrote:



Sad...

Makes me angry and say.. KUMBAFF

Four men held us hostage for 4 days..
alma
#87 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:30:13 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
timuka wrote:



Sad...

Makes me angry and say.. KUMBAFF

Four men held us hostage for 4 days..


On a serious note, there are still people with jobs after this?

Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Euge
#88 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:34:37 PM
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chemos wrote:
These guys were just to casual with the killings!!!!!! clearly kuna watu na kuna wanyama!!!!


Gives the phrase trigger happy alot of meaning.
Lord, thank you!
timuka
#89 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:43:34 PM
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My heart goes to the man who was shot at the entrance of Nakumatt point-blankPray Pray Pray They were even shooting dead bodiesPray Pray
nakujua
#90 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:46:25 PM
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I wonder what the animals were praying for, or praying to.
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