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AU Addis summit - ICC mass walk out?
tycho
#31 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:33:26 PM
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alma wrote:
@poundfoolish what you've written is too complicated. What I'd advice is that you let these guys talk.engaging will only make you a tad less wise.

One minute they hate whites, next they score high in gmat, then they look to China, now they take advice from Chad.

What you are watching should be done with popcorn.

Sycophancy is an interesting event and only occurs a few times in a generation. The last one was Kanu youth wingers. Now we have cyber youth wingers.

Sit back and enjoy. DSTV is becoming rather expensive.


I like this idea of 'cyber youth wingers'. But that these youth should be 'sycophants' is deplorable. The President himself should avoid it at all cost. Why?

The challenges we're facing as a country require openness and truth. Without being open and truthful, there'll be no justice, and the nation will sink further into rot and corruption. The converse will save everyone.

Ngalaka
#32 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57:08 PM
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Circus is our lot!

Sad.

In a rut, but busy digging!

Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Caramba
#33 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:05:02 PM
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Hats off to the AU for asserting Pan Africanism and resolving that no sitting head of state will ever stand accused in any court of law.

However, a friend who lost relatives during the 2007 PEV posed the following scenario :

Supposing one of the Westgate attackers we saw on cctv firing at innocent people slipped back into his country and ran for president in one of the breakaway Somalia republics and gets elected by popular vote.The guy then goes ahead to entrench a new constitution declaring him life president.

Now picture the guy turning up at the AU summit in Addis Ababa:
1) Will the AU roll out the red carpet for him when he turns up for the meeting?
2) Will our leaders, some of whom lost relatives at Westgate, receive him with hugs like they do to the likes of Al Bashir, Mugabe, Jammeh, etc?
3) Will the AU stick to it's resolution that no head of state can be tried in any court of law?

And the guy, with the help of brilliant lawyers like Khan and firebrands like Matsanga, can always convince the world that the cctv footage was doctored.
Nandwa
#34 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:04:21 PM
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Caramba wrote:
Hats off to the AU for asserting Pan Africanism and resolving that no sitting head of state will ever stand accused in any court of law.

However, a friend who lost relatives during the 2007 PEV posed the following scenario :

Supposing one of the Westgate attackers we saw on cctv firing at innocent people slipped back into his country and ran for president in one of the breakaway Somalia republics and gets elected by popular vote.The guy then goes ahead to entrench a new constitution declaring him life president.

Now picture the guy turning up at the AU summit in Addis Ababa:
1) Will the AU roll out the red carpet for him when he turns up for the meeting?
2) Will our leaders, some of whom lost relatives at Westgate, receive him with hugs like they do to the likes of Al Bashir, Mugabe, Jammeh, etc?
3) Will the AU stick to it's resolution that no head of state can be tried in any court of law?

And the guy, with the help of brilliant lawyers like Khan and firebrands like Matsanga, can always convince the world that the cctv footage was doctored.



What a kill joy angle you introduce.

I would rather take after the Ostrich.

And while at it, the buzz word is head of State whether self declared or via millitarry coup thats secondary.

May be we are mistaken, the path taken by our leaders might be the route to greater advancement, security and Justice for the Continent.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
kysse
#35 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:13:41 PM
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oops!

Quote:
The summit meeting which ended on Saturday has agreed on a resolution stating that no sitting African head of state should appear before an international court.

The AU had discussed withdrawing from the ICC, but failed to get support.
Amores
#36 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 2:52:57 PM
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I am happy
Amores
#37 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:00:12 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
masukuma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Funny some jammas think kuna opposition but we are all one....to hell with ICC.....Africa rising, lol.

lol! if the UN/ICC has something between their ears they should take this lifeline and do proper investigations.


Why should they?....si tuko strong, waachane na sisi.....Africa can carry out proper investigations and control their killers and rapists au sion?

your goggles delude you! you are not an idealist... you are no better than the people who were saying "lets not be vague"... you have simply changed sides after you realized that your man was not in the mix. so don't argue as if we don't know you!

exactly! The views for and against ICC would swap if it was RAO and not UK in the dock.

smile I totally agree
I like how people like @MC want all of us to believe that what drives them is the quest for justice for victims and acting as though only Africans kills each other. For your information,killing ( your citizens or any other citizens- like what USA/NATO does in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc ) is not a preserve of Africans. This is why @ maka keeps asking us in which other countries people kill their citizens.

I believe that African is asserting itself,and we do not need the West to police us- we really do not but we have been brain washed to believe that we do.

Check out " the french african connection" on Aljazeera and you will see that these guys care less about those things they talk down on us about. And then decide to stop being brainwashed
I am happy
Nandwa
#38 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:03:29 PM
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Isnt it puzzling that Al Bashir's Sudan disowned the AU resolution only hours after it was passed.

Equally baffling is the insinuation that ICC signatories gave the meet a wide berth.

Ku nini?

http://www.nation.co.ke/...2/-/tkhfa0/-/index.html




Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
maka
#39 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:12:18 PM
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Lets pull out sina shida na hiyo @Amores
possunt quia posse videntur
Amores
#40 Posted : Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:17:13 PM
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maka wrote:
Lets pull out sina shida na hiyo @Amores

Not so fast @ maka. People should have a sober debate.Did you check the link?

LINK

I am happy
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