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simonkabz		#91 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:20:53 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon		Was reading that Tutu piece. So the world is more dangerous coz of African leaders? Why do I find ICC supporters very shallow, and of course for kenya, idiotic? So Africa needs ICC to be checked in its tracks coz of its propensity to crimes against humanity? What a load of horse shit! DOWN WITH ICC! Justice for Kenya is a complicated affair, and MILLIONs of kenyans would love to see a few "very clean n innocent" heads decapitated in public n thrown to the dogs. .....but that won't happen anyway. The best way for this country is to get out of that kangaroo shithole if it can't give ALL OF US justice. Tukae na ujinga wetu. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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maka		#92 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:30:51 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi		Thiong'o wrote: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000070719/jeff-koinange-live-with-maria-kamara-on-icc-pull-out-bid 12.14 “I notice that you call him Mr. Kenyatta, the rest of us call him president….” She explained clearly why she refers to him as Mr.Kenyatta... To the rest of you who are advocating for a pull out...show me one European country where people slash each other with machetes over an election???? possunt quia posse videntur
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McReggae		#93 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:42:08 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		maka wrote: Thiong'o wrote: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000070719/jeff-koinange-live-with-maria-kamara-on-icc-pull-out-bid 12.14 “I notice that you call him Mr. Kenyatta, the rest of us call him president….” She explained clearly why she refers to him as Mr.Kenyatta... To the rest of you who are advocating for a pull out...show me one European country where people slash each other with machetes over an election???? Achana na maswala nyingi, tutoke ICC!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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simonkabz		#94 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:47:29 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon		maka wrote: Thiong'o wrote: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000070719/jeff-koinange-live-with-maria-kamara-on-icc-pull-out-bid 12.14 “I notice that you call him Mr. Kenyatta, the rest of us call him president….” She explained clearly why she refers to him as Mr.Kenyatta... To the rest of you who are advocating for a pull out...show me one European country where people slash each other with machetes over an election???? I saw some PEV in Russia when Putin was recently reelected Show me one country in Africa that unilaterally or in cohorts with others, violently attacks another state without any provocation, killing over 100000 civilians, visits untold destruction using "LEGAL" mass destruction weapons, violently executes regime change then smiles all the way to the bank....leaving an erstwhile functional state in disarray......name just one. WAKWENDE! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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mkonomtupu		#95 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:15:18 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road		maka wrote: Thiong'o wrote: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000070719/jeff-koinange-live-with-maria-kamara-on-icc-pull-out-bid 12.14 “I notice that you call him Mr. Kenyatta, the rest of us call him president….” She explained clearly why she refers to him as Mr.Kenyatta... To the rest of you who are advocating for a pull out...show me one European country where people slash each other with machetes over an election???? It's best explained by Chairman Mao Tse Sung "War is the continuation of politics." In this sense, war is politics and war itself is a political action; since ancient times there has never been a war that did not have a political character.... However, war has its own particular characteristics and in this sense, it cannot be equated with politics in general. "War is the continuation of politics by other . . . means." When politics develops to a certain stage beyond which it cannot proceed by the usual means, war breaks out to sweep the obstacles from the way.... When the obstacle is removed and our political aim attained the war will stop. Nevertheless, if the obstacle is not completely swept away, the war will have to continue until the aim is fully accomplished.... It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed. "On Protracted War" (May 1938), " We need to sort out our politics not wasting time in some academic exercise on who is to blame in a Kangaroo court
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TAZ		#96 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 2:15:47 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152		Buster wrote: This thread shows exactly why Uhuruto were being asked not to run and also shows why they insisted on running... It also shows why certain people are still pushing for deferral.....
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Lolest!		#97 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:10:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		Buster wrote: This thread shows exactly why Uhuruto were being asked not to run and also shows why they insisted on running... Very bright fellows Uhuruto! We would not be having this discussion if they had not been elected. They had to run!
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Lolest!		#98 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:23:11 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		@ecstacy, see below why the constitution actually provides for prosecution of the President. Quote: Chapter Nine - The Executive Article 143. Protection from legal proceedings (1) Criminal proceedings shall not be instituted or continued in any court against the President or a person performing the functions of that office, during their tenure of office. (2) Civil proceedings shall not be instituted in any court against the President or the person performing the functions of that office during their tenure of office in respect of anything done or not done in the exercise of their powers under this Constitution. (3) Where provision is made in law limiting the time within which proceedings under clause (1) or (2) may be brought against a person, a period of time during which the person holds or performs the functions of the office of the President shall not be taken into account in calculating the period of time prescribed by that law. (4) The immunity of the President under this Article shall not extend to a crime for which the President may be prosecuted under any treaty to which Kenya is party and which prohibits such immunity. Me thinks subarticle 4 was written with an Uhuruto Presidency in mind by the COE!
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Magigi		#99 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:46:32 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		Wendz wrote: Magigi wrote: McReggae wrote: Lakini shida iko waphi....nilisema hapa kitambo Johnny Walker haendi hague.....I still believe so!!! I think he will go...but when he comes home for the mid-term break, he will not go back... Me don't think he will.
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Teller1		#100 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:26:00 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/3/2013 Posts: 15		Lolest! wrote: @ecstacy, see below why the constitution actually provides for prosecution of the President. Quote: Chapter Nine - The Executive Article 143. Protection from legal proceedings (1) Criminal proceedings shall not be instituted or continued in any court against the President or a person performing the functions of that office, during their tenure of office. (2) Civil proceedings shall not be instituted in any court against the President or the person performing the functions of that office during their tenure of office in respect of anything done or not done in the exercise of their powers under this Constitution. (3) Where provision is made in law limiting the time within which proceedings under clause (1) or (2) may be brought against a person, a period of time during which the person holds or performs the functions of the office of the President shall not be taken into account in calculating the period of time prescribed by that law. (4) The immunity of the President under this Article shall not extend to a crime for which the President may be prosecuted under any treaty to which Kenya is party and which prohibits such immunity. Me thinks subarticle 4 was written with an Uhuruto Presidency in mind by the COE! Parliament should repeal this article.
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