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Somalia Operation #WestgatEattack
ecstacy
#21 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 3:52:47 PM
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Confirmed the target of the NAVY SEALs attack is Abdulkadir Mohamed Abdulkadir.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#22 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 4:35:25 PM
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tycho wrote:
dunkang wrote:
tycho wrote:
There was a time when these foreign troops had set camp in Somalia with their sophisticated weapons and tactics and the end result was more deaths. They left more people dying. Now they sneak in and kill more people . . .

I wonder who gains in this killing game. Now they are targeting Al Shabaab leadership, after that?

Just the way you kill us. Tit-for-tat, the only way now.

But don't worry tycho, you will be recruited by al-qaeda after your al-shabab has been dealt with squarely.


It's sad, that some of us, or perhaps most of us still believe that violence against Man is a true and dependable policy tool.

The barriers that called for war, no longer exist. Think about the spirit in the forming of the League of Nations. It's been humanity's interest to end war and violence against itself.

Cain, our 'father' didn't not desire death, even for himself.

But the war to end all war is an internal Jihad against our Cainite nature. It's about understanding our histories and cultures and collective human spirit, and finding harmony and peace. It's about finding light. Seeing, and hearing.

I hope the al qaeda is also listening; and the al Shabaab. And even the devil himself, that the Man God reigns, even in the hills of Afghanistan.

Swords should be turned to plows, and warriors, dancers.





Well said but to the wrong people, focus on the Islamic Fundamentalists.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
kollabo
#23 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 6:12:25 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Confirmed the target of the NAVY SEALs attack is Abdulkadir Mohamed Abdulkadir.


Yes, and he is a Kenyan.
Alba
#24 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 6:30:16 PM
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If Al Shabab camps are in plain site, why not just obliterate them with cruise missiles ?
ecstacy
#25 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 7:35:34 PM
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Alba wrote:
If Al Shabab camps are in plain site, why not just obliterate them with cruise missiles ?


Believe it was a home and Al Shabaab had prior info of the raid hence why the Navy Seals came under heavy fire.

Reports of 200 masked Al Shabaab checking into that town today to bolster positions.

Kenya and Amisom generally need more support to finish the job.
thuks
#26 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 9:23:42 PM
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Mobile CEO's under fire!
I care!
tycho
#27 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 9:25:24 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
tycho wrote:
dunkang wrote:
tycho wrote:
There was a time when these foreign troops had set camp in Somalia with their sophisticated weapons and tactics and the end result was more deaths. They left more people dying. Now they sneak in and kill more people . . .

I wonder who gains in this killing game. Now they are targeting Al Shabaab leadership, after that?

Just the way you kill us. Tit-for-tat, the only way now.

But don't worry tycho, you will be recruited by al-qaeda after your al-shabab has been dealt with squarely.


It's sad, that some of us, or perhaps most of us still believe that violence against Man is a true and dependable policy tool.

The barriers that called for war, no longer exist. Think about the spirit in the forming of the League of Nations. It's been humanity's interest to end war and violence against itself.

Cain, our 'father' didn't not desire death, even for himself.

But the war to end all war is an internal Jihad against our Cainite nature. It's about understanding our histories and cultures and collective human spirit, and finding harmony and peace. It's about finding light. Seeing, and hearing.

I hope the al qaeda is also listening; and the al Shabaab. And even the devil himself, that the Man God reigns, even in the hills of Afghanistan.

Swords should be turned to plows, and warriors, dancers.





Well said but to the wrong people, focus on the Islamic Fundamentalists.


There are reports that some Syrian rebels, a significant number perhaps would prefer government under Shari'a; and not just that they are suspected to have links with al qaeda.

This recent operation by SEALS arrested an al qaeda operative in Libya. And the matter nettled the PM, why? Did the Somali president cry?

During the Crusades, there were times when the Christian knights joined forces with Muslims. Yet, given the apologies given by Pope John Paul II for the fanatic fervor with which the Knights committed atrocities.

One could also say that modernity was built on Christian fundamentalism.

And so was the Christ associated with rebels at the cross, courtesy of a Jewish, Roman alliance.

And one can go further and further into history and see that 'fundamentalism' is a political resultant of the entire political game and to think that some are excluded is to commit a fatal error.

tycho
#28 Posted : Monday, October 07, 2013 9:39:30 PM
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The more we call them 'fundamentalists' the more we strengthen 'fundamentalism' and give it legitimacy.
harrydre
#29 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 12:15:06 AM
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Alba wrote:
If Al Shabab camps are in plain site, why not just obliterate them with cruise missiles ?


there might be too many innocent casualties. it's really a nightmare how to go about wiping out all these Shabaabs with minimal collateral damage.
i.am.back!!!!
kollabo
#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:20:47 AM
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It ain't over yet. Chuma chao ki motoni.
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