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murchr wrote:2012 wrote:Quite intriguing I must say. This man really suffered for our freedom. Hats off. I don't know if I could go through that.
Has he talked about the 1982 event and those who were involved. Has he tried to reach out to the families of those who died? boss, that's like asking Joseph Kony to reach out to the parents of the kids he kidnaps. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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Maybe the book should have been entitled Pulling up the Mask. More seriously though, what exactly is the matter? A prominent figure has written a book about himself, so what? He might gloss over some details and less than subtly try to sanitize his image here and there... but anyone who reads autobiographies knows that is to be expected. One thing you will not take away from Raila and many other heroes of the second liberation is that they stood up to an oppressive regime. He had the choice of parroting baba this and baba that like one Joseph Kamotho but he didn't. He chose to fight. He made his mistakes alright. He had his moments of poor judgement but hey, he's only human. Cut him some slack. Is he the kind of human being I want to read about? Yes. Does this book deliver? Too early to tell, I'd give the excerpts a score of a 6 for balancing across major aspects of the man's life. @Impunity, lete binoculars... Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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@seppuku,please educate me on how Raila was involved in the second liberation with credible links if any.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Mugallah muue lakini haki umpe. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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mawinder wrote:@seppuku,please educate me on how Raila was involved in the second liberation with credible links if any.  red goggles on i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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harrydre wrote:mawinder wrote:@seppuku,please educate me on how Raila was involved in the second liberation with credible links if any.  red goggles on So, the first time he was detained for allegedly plotting the '82 coup. What about the second and third time? Because he seduced his landlord's daughter, huh? How about we star here: Quote:Opposition to Moi's one-party rule grew during 1990.[4] In July, 1990, Charles Rubia, Matiba and Raila Odinga, son of the former Vice President, were arrested and detained without trial when their public "pro-democracy" rallies were banned. Their arrest was protested at home and abroad, and riots spread in the central province. Though a KANU Delegates' Conference in December voted to keep the one-party system, a government-sponsored national dialogue was set in motion with the goal of facilitating broader democracy in spite of one-party rule. Despite these mollifying gestures, public discontent with the government and KANU increased. In August, 1990, Oginga Odinga and six prominent opposition leaders, formed the Forum for Restoration of Democracy (FORD) with extensive multi-ethnic support. The new movement immediately gained the public's support and its popularity soared. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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2012 wrote:Quite intriguing I must say. This man really suffered for our freedom. Hats off. I don't know if I could go through that.
Now, 2012, I had a bit of respect for you. Its gone.. Where I come from, our folks say "Utathiaga oigagaa no Nyina urugaga wega" (I'm sure I got it right) which loosely translates... "one who has not travelled well thinks that the mother is best cook". It looks to me that you fear reading history, thus you have no idea as to who fought for freedom, and who deserves Credit. Period. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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Am wrote:2012 wrote:Quite intriguing I must say. This man really suffered for our freedom. Hats off. I don't know if I could go through that.
Now, 2012, I had a bit of respect for you. Its gone.. Where I come from, our folks say "Utathiaga oigagaa no Nyina urugaga wega" (I'm sure I got it right) which loosely translates... "one who has not travelled well thinks that the mother is best cook". It looks to me that you fear reading history, thus you have no idea as to who fought for freedom, and who deserves Credit. Period. @Am, who would that be? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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harrydre wrote:murchr wrote:2012 wrote:Quite intriguing I must say. This man really suffered for our freedom. Hats off. I don't know if I could go through that.
Has he talked about the 1982 event and those who were involved. Has he tried to reach out to the families of those who died? boss, that's like asking Joseph Kony to reach out to the parents of the kids he kidnaps. There you go dude. Man should be in Guantanamo bay. where was MAMA CORD, she of ICC Prosecution that time. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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seppuku wrote:Am wrote:2012 wrote:Quite intriguing I must say. This man really suffered for our freedom. Hats off. I don't know if I could go through that.
Now, 2012, I had a bit of respect for you. Its gone.. Where I come from, our folks say "Utathiaga oigagaa no Nyina urugaga wega" (I'm sure I got it right) which loosely translates... "one who has not travelled well thinks that the mother is best cook". It looks to me that you fear reading history, thus you have no idea as to who fought for freedom, and who deserves Credit. Period. @Am, who would that be? @Seppuku. If Pushed In a corner, I can Provide a list. But I chose to enjoy a peaceful Friday.. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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