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McReggae
#131 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 6:40:30 PM
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alma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Any sympathizer ready to explain why youths from a Mosque burnt a church in their protests?


name 1 sympathiser


Do you really think I need to? Rather obvious in my opinion.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Magigi
#132 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 6:40:55 PM
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alma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Any sympathizer ready to explain why youths from a Mosque burnt a church in their protests?


name 1 sympathiser

@alphadoti...reasons like macementry!!!
murchr
#133 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 6:56:43 PM
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alma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Any sympathizer ready to explain why youths from a Mosque burnt a church in their protests?


name 1 sympathiser


ALMA
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#134 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:04:18 PM
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Magigi wrote:
alma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Any sympathizer ready to explain why youths from a Mosque burnt a church in their protests?


name 1 sympathiser

@alphadoti...reasons like macementry!!!


Taking our thoughts along this road is counterproductive. At least AlphDoti avails himself for discussion, and so far, I haven't seen him take sides with terrorism.

The question asked by @Mcreggae seems to exclude reasonable dialogue on this matter because 'sympathizers' are anyway, being 'dispatched'.

It's like asking for a license to kill or something.

But what I know is that one can guess that such actions as burning churches are provocations for religious confrontation and disguise of political motives.


Alba
#135 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:14:25 PM
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I just read that Ma-cemetery was actually arrested then released on bail. How is it possible that someone who poses a clear and present danger to children and to the country was released on bail ?

man we really have a bunch of incompetent people running the show.
AlphDoti
#136 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:21:13 PM
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Location: Kenya
tycho wrote:
Magigi wrote:
alma wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Any sympathizer ready to explain why youths from a Mosque burnt a church in their protests?

name 1 sympathiser

@alphadoti...reasons like macementry!!!

Taking our thoughts along this road is counterproductive. At least AlphDoti avails himself for discussion, and so far, I haven't seen him take sides with terrorism.

The question asked by @Mcreggae seems to exclude reasonable dialogue on this matter because 'sympathizers' are anyway, being 'dispatched'.

It's like asking for a license to kill or something.

But what I know is that one can guess that such actions as burning churches are provocations for religious confrontation and disguise of political motives.

Let us respect each other. I say that this issue of saying some individuals are this or that because of their religious background is unfair.
Let's be objective. I am saying a criminal is a criminal. A sinner is a sinner. It does not matter which camp you are in.
Yes it is true that some Muslims themselves are responsible for some of the distortions about Islam. Some of the misconceptions about Islam is as a result of the misbehaviour of some Msulims. And that is to be fair and objective.
But targeting some people for harassment, for illegal arrests, for detention and now killing.
And now Wazuans, the club of great mindsm are supporting these killings because those being killed are not one of their own. I say this is hypocracy.

And when somebody speaks up about these, you turn around and say "so and so is a simpathyzer".

Are people here now saying they are in support of governments who go around killing people without trial?
Can we now say the judiciary has no functions? Everybody should be the police, the judge and executer?
AlphDoti
#137 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:23:31 PM
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Alba wrote:
I just read that Ma-cemetery was actually arrested then released on bail. How is it possible that someone who poses a clear and present danger to children and to the country was released on bail ?

man we really have a bunch of incompetent people running the show.

These are the kind of questions we should be asking. All of us are not in support of illegal operations. Whether by Al-shab or government. But when you see some other people's responses, and personalising issues, you start wondering about th eage of those individuals Shame on you Shame on you
harrydre
#138 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:36:09 PM
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Location: Kanjo
[quote=alma]Many wars have been lost before they started by the actions of overzealous cowards. Somehow religion is always used.

Example 1

Alshabab

Example 2

The uneducated who've posted on this thread derogatory terms against a particular religion

Both these two people are one and the same.Cowards and fools who don't want to think beyond their foolishness.

Muslims are not terrorists. If you can't get that in to your head, then you need to have Jesus in your life.

But Like I was saying....wars are never won in the battlefield...ask USA. They are won and lost in the hearts and minds.

I'm even wondering if this wasn't a terrorist attack by the alshabab to gain more sympathy. Coz the cops can't be that stupid...But I've been wrong before.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...ca-24398548#TWEET910453[/quote]

who has condemned islam? Facts speak for themselves.

1) All terrorists in history happen to be muslims
2) Show me any mosque ever burnt by a xtian ?

it's such things that give islam a bad name and ngamias like you and ma-cemetery. before you call people names here and uneducated, go help your fools down in mombasa ama urudishe ungamia kismayo.


i.am.back!!!!
AlphDoti
#139 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:39:47 PM
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Thank you @tycho for the complement.

I wish to say more and to emphasize on those individuals who follow the media blindly. Yes of course, the media has the duty of informing us.
But it does not mean we should be so naive as to believe everything they say.

Yes I know many of you have heard, or you have been told, that "certain people" are terrorists, they are fanatics, they are extremists, they are murderers, they are hostage takers... This is what you have been told. And I will tell you that in some cases, that is true. There have been certainly some Muslims, not just recently but even before newspapers and the media came about, there have been some Muslims who had meaner element of the Muslims who have done those things.
But let us be objective. You can go to history and be objective.

Have not Jews and Christians also done those things? And are they not also doing those things? Yes they are. As I said, a criminal is a criminal. A sinner is a sinner. It does not matter what you are. You know and I know that you would never see in the media a Christian pedophile.
- You would never see a pedophile called a "Christian Pedophile".
- You would never see a murderer called a "Christian Murderer", or a "Jewish murderer".

Wanugu was never called Christian murderer. KDF and its mass killing of hostages after collapsing the floors was never called Christian Terrorist organisation. US troops in Iraq were not called Christian terrorist organization. Yet infact they have committed some of the greatest crimes. But they are not referred to as Christian terorrists.

Then I ask why? Why when a non-Christian is accused, maybe not even convicted, but if he only accussed of something, he is called a terrorist.
Why because the media is controlled by people who want to malign Muslims and Islam.

And I say that is unfair.
dunkang
#140 Posted : Friday, October 04, 2013 7:45:39 PM
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Now Al-Qaeda die hards here want me to reason with terrorists. NKT. A good terrorist is one who is enjoying 72 cockroach pussies, and there is nothing like winning any hearts souls pussies nor shits with them.

Once beaten, twice cleverer. THIS IS WAR ON RELIGION!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

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