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tycho wrote:mkonomtupu wrote:@ecstacy, let it go, let this one end. We no longer have the bandwidth for it. It's a national shame, we were humiliated and then looted by our own finest soldiers. There is nothing positive about that. Let us not spin mythical tales because it is clear we lost this battle. Allow us to go back to our normal lives, pay our taxes and endure the ravages of inflation and hope our govt actually gets its priorities right I think we also need to get our priorities right as citizens. We feed corruption and ineptitude with our approach to life. We need to examine ourselves and build a better Kenya. @tycho - Here we are as Kenyans, moving on already.. Our problem isn't that we're not angry. We're very angry but we bury our anger; we never use it as a driving force for change.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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ecstacy wrote:poundfoolish wrote:That would be painful..
A national shame.. I have always held that the terrorists died in the mall..
but the tunnel and this news... sigh...
Lord don't let it be true I believe some of the attackers got away but looking at the geography of the place, distance of WG from the tunnel, the sheer numbers of security forces there and their 24hr positioning, the tunnel story in my view is a bit far fetched..any escape was likely latest Sat when their were significant numbers of trapped people..one case as confirmed by this witness - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6F1yWAGKhU
It's highly unlikely to drill/dig across 100m or so underground to the sewer line in just 24hrs undetected across a secured area where stealth was the modus operandi and emerge from this sewer to where platoons were lined up all the way till Lower Kabete Rd, Sarit or Oshwal Centre undetected. A source indicates there were already attackers in the building when the shooting started who helped set up booby traps and then melted away as 'victims'.. the story should unravel as people seek to cover their a$$es #WeAreOne_dering i tend to agree with you. if any escaped, it was at early stages and they walked out with the frightened shoppers. otherwise all those others who were fighting in there and retreated to the safe room @ Nakumat must have been blown off not unless the tunnel exit is in that safe room.I guess they didn't anticipate that KDF would bomb the place down. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:tycho wrote:mkonomtupu wrote:@ecstacy, let it go, let this one end. We no longer have the bandwidth for it. It's a national shame, we were humiliated and then looted by our own finest soldiers. There is nothing positive about that. Let us not spin mythical tales because it is clear we lost this battle. Allow us to go back to our normal lives, pay our taxes and endure the ravages of inflation and hope our govt actually gets its priorities right I think we also need to get our priorities right as citizens. We feed corruption and ineptitude with our approach to life. We need to examine ourselves and build a better Kenya. @tycho - Here we are as Kenyans, moving on already.. Our problem isn't that we're not angry. We're very angry but we bury our anger; we never use it as a driving force for change. And in turning anger inwards we commit suicide. We allow citizens to die and to be killed. Shrugging our shoulders and moving on will destroy us.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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ecstacy wrote:butterflyke wrote:ecstacy wrote:If the stories of half the Al Shabaab WestgatE attackers about to be received as heroes in parts of Somalia gain credence and hit the headlines lets just say the gallant efforts of our servicemen will be a rumour!!!
Amisom has made headway in recent years β taking Mogadishu from al-Shabaab in 2011 and Kismayo in 2012. But the number of red blobs on Amisom's map is still large and does not seem to be shrinking. It is in these areas, fighters revel in mythical 'Mujahideen' stories.
Can our media please do it's part and convert this horrendous WestgatE episode into something positive. this would be very sad but i doubt our media can do much if people in charge GOOFED in the first place. on the other hand, it is also possible that this is part of the alchambambu propaganda, may be they have some serious spin doctors. lakini sio kusema ati people in charge did not goof  The truth has to be said but does it take foreign media to keep cover a case like the following one 'Haji united with the family he helped save - http://bit.ly/1fCdP1N ' our media is wanting in many ways....#someonetellmediayetu but my point is that for it to report something good on the part of those in charge (note here i am talking specifically about those in charge), good things must have been done first Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Aliπ
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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There cannot be victors without victims.
We have to redeem ourselves. Our image is tarnished. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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If the attack on the Westgate shopping centre by Islamist militants cannot help you feel motivated to unite with your fellow Kenyan from different ethnic and religious groups in grief, sorry to say, you cannot be helped.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/5/2007 Posts: 332
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ecstacy wrote:If the stories of half the Al Shabaab WestgatE attackers about to be received as heroes in parts of Somalia gain credence and hit the headlines lets just say the gallant efforts of our servicemen will be a rumour!!!
Amisom has made headway in recent years β taking Mogadishu from al-Shabaab in 2011 and Kismayo in 2012. But the number of red blobs on Amisom's map is still large and does not seem to be shrinking. It is in these areas, fighters revel in mythical 'Mujahideen' stories.
Can our media please do it's part and convert this horrendous WestgatE episode into something positive. Very likely but ould also be propaganda..
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