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Attack at Westgate
AlphDoti
#1861 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:25:09 PM
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Quote:
"Basically, when things like this happen, Somalis are the victims."

...

"We are against them," he said.

"We are not supporting them. You might see or hear some people saying al Shabaab will not be able to carry out those attacks without the support of the Somali diaspora but honestly that is false information."

Many people who fled Somalia hoped they would find sanctuary and those who created new lives in Kenya want al Shabaab hounded out.

AlphDoti
#1862 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:27:30 PM
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By Emma Birchley, Sky News Correspondent
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Young Somalis living in the UK have voiced their frustration that the image of young people from their home country are being tarnished by the actions of the few.

Al Shabaab, which means 'The Youth', has claimed responsibility for the terror attack on the Westgate shopping mall in Kenya's capital, Nairobi.

Mohamed Ibrahim works with Somali teenagers in north London and as a young man himself is angry that any link is made with a group holding such abhorrent views.

"As a British citizen I have got nothing to do it but because there is a Somali link it's expected that we feel some sort of association or guilt, if you like, and sometimes that's quite difficult because I despise those guys."
washiku
#1863 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:34:59 PM
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What if the GOK sent a few "recruits" from NSI every moment to be informing it of impending attacks n the plans? Can such a plan be executed?
harrydre
#1864 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:59:15 PM
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The govt should create a secret security agency that is empowered to search and destroy suspected terrorists plotting to kill Kenyans without going through the court system.
i.am.back!!!!
tycho
#1865 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:18:33 PM
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harrydre wrote:
The govt should create a secret security agency that is empowered to search and destroy suspected terrorists plotting to kill Kenyans without going through the court system.


When the government conducts extra judicial killings, who will care about the courts, and the law? It will no longer be 'government'.

Such thinking may end up creating opposite extremes like 'Al Shabaab'.

kysse
#1866 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:41:11 PM
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tycho wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The govt should create a secret security agency that is empowered to search and destroy suspected terrorists plotting to kill Kenyans without going through the court system.


When the government conducts extra judicial killings, who will care about the courts, and the law? It will no longer be 'government'.

Such thinking may end up creating opposite extremes like 'Al Shabaab'.



In short,we need terrorists to deal with terrorists after all dawa ya moto ni moto.

I am tired of terrorists and whatever it takes to wipe them off I fully support.


tycho
#1867 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:58:32 PM
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kysse wrote:
tycho wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The govt should create a secret security agency that is empowered to search and destroy suspected terrorists plotting to kill Kenyans without going through the court system.


When the government conducts extra judicial killings, who will care about the courts, and the law? It will no longer be 'government'.

Such thinking may end up creating opposite extremes like 'Al Shabaab'.



In short,we need terrorists to deal with terrorists after all dawa ya moto ni moto.

I am tired of terrorists and whatever it takes to wipe them off I fully support.




Problem is you'll end up being a terrorist and will be dealt with like a terrorist by your fellow terrorists.

But yes, terrorism will lose it's strength over you. Only now you'll be scarcely human. And the world will be hell.

You'll have surrendered to the Jihadi interests. If you don't join them, then they should drive you to hell.
JkMwatha
#1868 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:29:12 PM
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kysse wrote:
tycho wrote:
harrydre wrote:
The govt should create a secret security agency that is empowered to search and destroy suspected terrorists plotting to kill Kenyans without going through the court system.


When the government conducts extra judicial killings, who will care about the courts, and the law? It will no longer be 'government'.

Such thinking may end up creating opposite extremes like 'Al Shabaab'.



In short,we need terrorists to deal with terrorists after all dawa ya moto ni moto.

I am tired of terrorists and whatever it takes to wipe them off I fully support.





This is not new... the likes of Aboud Rogo becomes news because he was well known.
Many 'masterminds' are unknown publicly, and are 'vaporised'. Only people close to them are aware.

Many disappear well before they hit the headlines.
Call it extra-judicial whatever... it happens all over... intelligence services work with other foreign intelligence to identify and eliminate individuals who have become "inconvenient" in some way.

al-shabaab know this.

Shak
#1869 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:01:08 PM
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The suspected terrorist shown on ntv who was caught at westgate looks like an Arab not a Somali. The guy is light skinned and Somalis are dark skinned.
Magigi
#1870 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:36:53 PM
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Ole Lenku Live on Citizen...Confirmed the worst fears...The governemnt does not have a single body of the 15 attackers!!!
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