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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Impunity wrote:Pierce wrote:McReggae wrote:Magigi wrote:simonkabz wrote:Woi, the armchair experts and web witnesses........middle class confusion and massive appetite for tabloid stories........go on..... Ukichengwa, tulia...  .......ni vile maswali yanahitaji majibu!!!! I'm told there's a cafe (not Arte Caffe) which would on a typical Saturday have a noticeable patronage from one of the foreign neighbouring communities. Interestingly that fateful day none of them was there and offcourse none amongst the casualties. Expound please~! Maswali ya magna kweli...
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 420 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:[quote=simonkabz]A doctor who has been working at the Westgate Mall has claimed that terrorists tortured their victims before killing them. "Those are not allegations. Those are f****ng truths. They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers." The doctor who wished to remain anonymous said what he saw was worse that the deaths from the Sachangwan oil tanker explosion that claimed 139 lives in Jaunaury 2009 and the Sinai fire tragedy that killed 101 people in September 2011. "Sachangwan and Sinai is 50 percent of this. Sachangwan and Sinai you are sure of one thing...it is fire. And those people before they died they fell unconscious. Here it was pain. You find people with hooks hanging from the roof," he said. - See more at: http://www.the-star.co.k...ed#sthash.JmaQZhcc.dpuf[/quote] Tears building here..This kind of information shouldn't reach the families..I know a friend who buried his wife today..to imagine your loved one died this painfully..God..  [ why does that doctors report sound off???...
Opinion is free, truth is sacred.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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mkenyan wrote:Wendz wrote:It's only that i still do not how to attach photos but there is this group of security men and there is one carrying a silver/aluminum briefcase like thing... i wondered what he would be carrying given the operation was ongoing.... what would he have been "rescuing"? Cash from the banks or jewelry? was it authorized or was it sticky fingers... anyone else seen it?
I never made much of it but now that questions are coming up and one was caught with bloody wallet... i don't know what to make of it now. if this the photo below then it looks more like military stuff than looted ones:  Kuwa mpole dada naomba - hio briefcase ni equipment ya ku jam radio signals so that al shaitan couldn't detonate an IED via mobile phone. The creeps had lined the corridors of the mall with bombs, awaiting kdf guys to pour in then they blast them. Check pia presidential securities when fikaing somewhere n you will see a soldier carrying such -color varies.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Blackberry wrote:ecstacy wrote:[quote=simonkabz]A doctor who has been working at the Westgate Mall has claimed that terrorists tortured their victims before killing them. "Those are not allegations. Those are f****ng truths. They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers." The doctor who wished to remain anonymous said what he saw was worse that the deaths from the Sachangwan oil tanker explosion that claimed 139 lives in Jaunaury 2009 and the Sinai fire tragedy that killed 101 people in September 2011. "Sachangwan and Sinai is 50 percent of this. Sachangwan and Sinai you are sure of one thing...it is fire. And those people before they died they fell unconscious. Here it was pain. You find people with hooks hanging from the roof," he said. - See more at: http://www.the-star.co.k...ed#sthash.JmaQZhcc.dpuf[/quote] Tears building here..This kind of information shouldn't reach the families..I know a friend who buried his wife today..to imagine your loved one died this painfully..God.. [ why does that doctors report sound off???... hehehe......hizi ndizo watu wanabelieve!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,885
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Magigi wrote:Amores wrote:Wait a minute. If KDF stole,this is just a reflection of our society and I do not see why peeople are feiging "I am perturbed".Let's start with offices for example,how many times do you see you colleagues "helping" themselves with stuff from the office,or better still ,how many time have you done it? How many time have you filed claims from your employer which were not true?How many time did you get into shoddy busines deals?Or this looks baaddddd ,very bad because it was in the process of a bloody terrorist attack?It is the high we had a real introspection as a nation,we like hiding behind smoke screen,pretending and adopting a holier than thou attitude. If you are a thief don't drag others into it...many of us make a very honest living you beat me to it. seems like amore's moral compass is bent and he/she expects everyone to be the same.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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McReggae wrote:Blackberry wrote:ecstacy wrote:[quote=simonkabz]A doctor who has been working at the Westgate Mall has claimed that terrorists tortured their victims before killing them. "Those are not allegations. Those are f****ng truths. They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers." The doctor who wished to remain anonymous said what he saw was worse that the deaths from the Sachangwan oil tanker explosion that claimed 139 lives in Jaunaury 2009 and the Sinai fire tragedy that killed 101 people in September 2011. "Sachangwan and Sinai is 50 percent of this. Sachangwan and Sinai you are sure of one thing...it is fire. And those people before they died they fell unconscious. Here it was pain. You find people with hooks hanging from the roof," he said. - See more at: http://www.the-star.co.k...ed#sthash.JmaQZhcc.dpuf[/quote] Tears building here..This kind of information shouldn't reach the families..I know a friend who buried his wife today..to imagine your loved one died this painfully..God.. [ why does that doctors report sound off???... hehehe......hizi ndizo watu wanabelieve!!! http://www.dailymail.co....oks-fingers-removed.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:Blackberry wrote:ecstacy wrote:[quote=simonkabz]A doctor who has been working at the Westgate Mall has claimed that terrorists tortured their victims before killing them. "Those are not allegations. Those are f****ng truths. They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers." The doctor who wished to remain anonymous said what he saw was worse that the deaths from the Sachangwan oil tanker explosion that claimed 139 lives in Jaunaury 2009 and the Sinai fire tragedy that killed 101 people in September 2011. "Sachangwan and Sinai is 50 percent of this. Sachangwan and Sinai you are sure of one thing...it is fire. And those people before they died they fell unconscious. Here it was pain. You find people with hooks hanging from the roof," he said. - See more at: http://www.the-star.co.k...ed#sthash.JmaQZhcc.dpuf[/quote] Tears building here..This kind of information shouldn't reach the families..I know a friend who buried his wife today..to imagine your loved one died this painfully..God.. [ why does that doctors report sound off???... hehehe......hizi ndizo watu wanabelieve!!! http://www.dailymail.co....ks-fingers-removed.html[ There is even a new thread with that story....doesn't make it authentic...no? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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This will not be the first time that journalists conjure stories to sell their newspapers. Such stories have heros and very terrible humans on the other side. Simple logic about the so called heros....I will keep mum about that one. Don't want to be cooked. But the terrible humans is rather strange. Very strange indeed. So guys are fighting an army outside and have time to sharpen people's fingers? The story itself it first as in the fellow saw people being told to write with their sharpened fingers. I don't remember any witness saying all this. Infact they talked about being shot. You have to have watched too many movies to believe some of the crap journalists spew out. From heros, to "chucky the terrorist", to cops stealing and army stealing diamonds, we have to be very careful what we hear. What I'm not hearing is who the hell allowed 4-15 guys to enter the country with firepower enough for an army? Who knew? What did they do about it? America fell into the "hate the muslims" propaganda war that led to "saddam did it" to "weapons of mass destruction" stories spewed by journalists. Never once did they sit down to ask themselves the hard questions. What the hell was the president and his security team doing to allow such a mess. Too late, 10 years later and they are still fighting stupid wars. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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mkenyan wrote:Magigi wrote:Amores wrote:Wait a minute. If KDF stole,this is just a reflection of our society and I do not see why peeople are feiging "I am perturbed".Let's start with offices for example,how many times do you see you colleagues "helping" themselves with stuff from the office,or better still ,how many time have you done it? How many time have you filed claims from your employer which were not true?How many time did you get into shoddy busines deals?Or this looks baaddddd ,very bad because it was in the process of a bloody terrorist attack?It is the high we had a real introspection as a nation,we like hiding behind smoke screen,pretending and adopting a holier than thou attitude. If you are a thief don't drag others into it...many of us make a very honest living you beat me to it. seems like amore's moral compass is bent and he/she expects everyone to be the same. Sorry guys,I am not here to justify who I am,or how straight or crooked my moral compass is or to make posts that are popular/ do not go against the grain.And you do not have to agree with me,these are just my thoughts and feelings and I make no apologies about it. Besides,if we all agreed on issues,the world would be like heaven,na hatuja fika huko bado. But I also know that it is hard to accept truth,so we ( human being) prefer not to face it and that way,we have a coping mechanism - all acceptable in psyschologia. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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McReggae wrote:ecstacy wrote:McReggae wrote:Blackberry wrote:ecstacy wrote:[quote=simonkabz]A doctor who has been working at the Westgate Mall has claimed that terrorists tortured their victims before killing them. "Those are not allegations. Those are f****ng truths. They removed balls, eyes, ears, nose. They get your hand and sharpen it like a pencil then they tell you to write your name with the blood. They drive knives inside a child's body. Actually if you look at all the bodies, unless those ones that were escaping, fingers are cut by pliers, the noses are ripped by pliers." The doctor who wished to remain anonymous said what he saw was worse that the deaths from the Sachangwan oil tanker explosion that claimed 139 lives in Jaunaury 2009 and the Sinai fire tragedy that killed 101 people in September 2011. "Sachangwan and Sinai is 50 percent of this. Sachangwan and Sinai you are sure of one thing...it is fire. And those people before they died they fell unconscious. Here it was pain. You find people with hooks hanging from the roof," he said. - See more at: http://www.the-star.co.k...ed#sthash.JmaQZhcc.dpuf[/quote] Tears building here..This kind of information shouldn't reach the families..I know a friend who buried his wife today..to imagine your loved one died this painfully..God.. [ why does that doctors report sound off???... hehehe......hizi ndizo watu wanabelieve!!! http://www.dailymail.co....ks-fingers-removed.html[ There is even a new thread with that story....doesn't make it authentic...no? I personally spoke to someone involved in the operation and the shooting and hurling of bodies did happen on Sunday night. These horrid accounts from the Star were new to me. Like the 'looting', I hope they are false!!! Denying what witnesses are saying doesn't mean they didn't happen neither does imagining them your way make it valid to dismiss 'witness' accounts..
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