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Abdul Haji
Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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@Am, find the post about Westgate Mall Hoax. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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A true patriot, words and deeds!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2007 Posts: 337
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The ladies who made food and tea for the soldiers and press,the guys who donated food,the little guys who were praying please God help so and so to get out there alive.All these are MY heroes Advice is like snow.The softer it lands the harder is sticks.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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I posted in another thread that Mohammed Ali of KTN did a very grave injustice to this country by the way he exposed Abdul Haji's brother who is an undercover NSI officer. If you watched that documentary, you will notice that there was an intention to paint the officer in bad light to Muslims in general. If you did not see the whole documentary (the kiswahili one aired by Mohammed) please see it first) The moment I saw it, I just knew that he has just made one of our key officers stop his work at NSI.
I was not surprised to learn from yesterday's interview that since then, the family has been living in fear. In any case, Abdul Haji and family had already been exposed by Mohammed Ali, and theirfore had nothing more to hide. I would not be surprised if The Haji's and Mohammed Ali come from different clans and that Mohammed Ali has bones to pick with them. The KTN editorial department should not have allowed the officer to be exposed in such a malicious way.
Is Mohammed an agent of the terrorists trying to scare off officers from NSI, or just plain journalism incompetence?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/21/2013 Posts: 427
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tassia wrote:I posted in another thread that Mohammed Ali of KTN did a very grave injustice to this country by the way he exposed Abdul Haji's brother who is an undercover NSI officer. If you watched that documentary, you will notice that there was an intention to paint the officer in bad light to Muslims in general. If you did not see the whole documentary (the kiswahili one aired by Mohammed) please see it first) The moment I saw it, I just knew that he has just made one of our key officers stop his work at NSI.
I was not surprised to learn from yesterday's interview that since then, the family has been living in fear. In any case, Abdul Haji and family had already been exposed by Mohammed Ali, and theirfore had nothing more to hide. I would not be surprised if The Haji's and Mohammed Ali come from different clans and that Mohammed Ali has bones to pick with them. The KTN editorial department should not have allowed the officer to be exposed in such a malicious way.
Is Mohammed an agent of the terrorists trying to scare off officers from NSI, or just plain journalism incompetence? My hunch is that he is a sympathizer
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/21/2013 Posts: 427
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AlphDoti wrote:timuka wrote:However it was sad to note how MOHA and his jicho pevu recklessly leaked the details of his brother who is an undercover agent. Am beginning to have my doubts and suspicions over this MOHA guy especially after this >>>>>  I laud this gentleman. I'm happy to see Wazua community realize that this thing affects all of us. We have to fight this together. All communities are affected regardless. However, about this exchange of words with one alleged Ali, I would caution you about the ligitimacy of this. Anybody can impersonate him. So, do not take this as gospel truth until when we know it si actually him. It does not sound like him. That's my observation. @AphDoti...All this is very much alive on his twitter account, he has not deleted it and neither has he come out to claim that his account has been hacked into (Raburu style) Here is one of the tweets
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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vin wrote:The ladies who made food and tea for the soldiers and press,the guys who donated food,the little guys who were praying please God help so and so to get out there alive.All these are MY heroes @vin, Those who put their lives on the line [Abdul and all] WHAT are they to you?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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timuka wrote:tassia wrote:I posted in another thread that Mohammed Ali of KTN did a very grave injustice to this country by the way he exposed Abdul Haji's brother who is an undercover NSI officer. If you watched that documentary, you will notice that there was an intention to paint the officer in bad light to Muslims in general. If you did not see the whole documentary (the kiswahili one aired by Mohammed) please see it first) The moment I saw it, I just knew that he has just made one of our key officers stop his work at NSI.
I was not surprised to learn from yesterday's interview that since then, the family has been living in fear. In any case, Abdul Haji and family had already been exposed by Mohammed Ali, and theirfore had nothing more to hide. I would not be surprised if The Haji's and Mohammed Ali come from different clans and that Mohammed Ali has bones to pick with them. The KTN editorial department should not have allowed the officer to be exposed in such a malicious way.
Is Mohammed an agent of the terrorists trying to scare off officers from NSI, or just plain journalism incompetence? My hunch is that he is a sympathizer Which makes him a liability given his position in media. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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That jicho pevu Ali is no hero as far as matters #Westgate go. I urge all to stop discussing hime here.
A fresh thread about jicho pevu's Ali would do justice to all.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/22/2010 Posts: 40 Location: kenya
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I think the Westgate attack for the perpetrators was a PR exercise. They needed to show their relevance to their backers and supporters. Being so, I think one of the ways ordinary Kenyans and more so the Kenyan Online Army can do to help is conduct a counter PR campaign. Since Abdul has garnered a sort of anti terrorism mascot/hero status, he can be used as the poster child for fighting terrorism.
Just my thought...
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2007 Posts: 337
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mkeiyd wrote:vin wrote:The ladies who made food and tea for the soldiers and press,the guys who donated food,the little guys who were praying please God help so and so to get out there alive.All these are MY heroes @vin, Those who put their lives on the line [Abdul and all] WHAT are they to you? All those who did something within their ability to make a difference all those who could not make it to the scene but put in a good word to God for our nation.These are my heroes.All Kenyan.We for one put aside what divides us and focused on a common enemy.What do you call that. Advice is like snow.The softer it lands the harder is sticks.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/10/2008 Posts: 480
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Abdul Haji is no doubt a HERO. My others hero is little Elliot Prior  Quote:It was at the height of the killing that multi-national terror force offered their terrified captives an extraordinary deal. Whilst many lay among the corpses pretending to be dead, or cowered behind shelves waiting for a safe moment to escape the gunmen, they were told that children would be offered safe passage out of the mall.
Four-year-old Elliot Prior, from Windsor in Berkshire, came out of hiding and told one of the militants that he was a "very bad man" as he protected his mother, Amber, who had been shot in the leg, and six-year-old sister Amelie.
In a bizarre twist, the gunman took pity on the family and handed the children Mars bars before telling them: "Please forgive me, we are not monsters." Amber, a film producer, had been queuing with her children to buy milk when the terrorists struck.
he lay on top of her children under a cold meat counter in the Nakumatt supermarket for an hour-and-a-half before terrorists finally found them and shot her in the thigh. Elliot's uncle, Alex Coutts, said: "They had a lucky escape. The terrorists said if any of the kids were alive in the supermarket they could leave. "Amber made the decision to stand up and say "yes". "Then Elliot started arguing with them and called them bad men. He was very brave." The terrorists dispensed the chocolate before the family fled with two other children, including a 12-year-old boy who had at first refused to leave his dead mother. The fate of 20 others who had taken refuge under the meat counter is unknown.
Source: The Independent
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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tassia wrote:I posted in another thread that Mohammed Ali of KTN did a very grave injustice to this country by the way he exposed Abdul Haji's brother who is an undercover NSI officer. If you watched that documentary, you will notice that there was an intention to paint the officer in bad light to Muslims in general. If you did not see the whole documentary (the kiswahili one aired by Mohammed) please see it first) The moment I saw it, I just knew that he has just made one of our key officers stop his work at NSI.
I was not surprised to learn from yesterday's interview that since then, the family has been living in fear. In any case, Abdul Haji and family had already been exposed by Mohammed Ali, and theirfore had nothing more to hide. I would not be surprised if The Haji's and Mohammed Ali come from different clans and that Mohammed Ali has bones to pick with them. The KTN editorial department should not have allowed the officer to be exposed in such a malicious way.
Is Mohammed an agent of the terrorists trying to scare off officers from NSI, or just plain journalism incompetence? @Tassia. Same thinking line as yours. BTW, I would like to see the Video by Muhaa. Could you Rink it here please. I do not seem to get it.. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/7/2011 Posts: 105
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Question: How many of you would walk into heavy gunfire to rescue your own brother, whether you have a pistol or not??? How many of you would stretch out their hand and ask a small kid to run to them for safety in the midst of freshly shot dead bodies??? How many?? Please tell?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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mkeiyd wrote:That jicho pevu Ali is no hero as far as matters #Westgate go. I urge all to stop discussing hime here.
A fresh thread about jicho pevu's Ali would do justice to all. Purrrfect.. infact a Kenyan Somali and Moslem.. but do you think our NIS can hack such propaganda warfare. They only swing into action during elections.. The other clip that should be on air over and over is of Ali, asking for his 2 year old and wife. Then people would know Alshabaab kill innocent people not Kuffar as they always shout hoarse
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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Zenge wrote:Question: How many of you would walk into heavy gunfire to rescue your own brother, whether you have a pistol or not??? How many of you would stretch out their hand and ask a small kid to run to them for safety in the midst of freshly shot dead bodies??? How many?? Please tell? This was the mission of every person sent into the mall-to save the people- RECCE,KDF,etc. And they did not have their brothers in there-it was their call of duty. Again,I am not discrediting what this man has don,but we need to hail everyone who did not chiken out of going into that building and came out alive or dead. You know,we will never get to hear the stories of the soldiers who died,those who braved the sniper and and how they died.Will we? I am happy
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Amores wrote:Zenge wrote:Question: How many of you would walk into heavy gunfire to rescue your own brother, whether you have a pistol or not??? How many of you would stretch out their hand and ask a small kid to run to them for safety in the midst of freshly shot dead bodies??? How many?? Please tell? This was the mission of every person sent into the mall-to save the people- RECCE,KDF,etc. And they did not have their brothers in their. Again,I am not discrediting what this man has don,but we need to hail everyone who did not chiken out of going into that building and came out alive or dead. You know,we will never get to hear the stories of the soldiers who died,those who braved the sniper and and how they died.Will we? it does not belittle what abdul haji did but i agree with you. putting your live on the line for your country (strangers) and knowing full well that the people you do it for would mostly likely never know is one of the highest form of heroism. and our soldiers do it all the time - risking their lives and dying for us and at the behest of at times clueless if not conflicted leaders, and we never get to even know it.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Zenge wrote:Question: How many of you would walk into heavy gunfire to rescue your own brother, whether you have a pistol or not??? How many of you would stretch out their hand and ask a small kid to run to them for safety in the midst of freshly shot dead bodies??? How many?? Please tell? What is your point? I thought we are talking about heroes here. People who did what your question is seeking. Ama keyboard ikiwa mbele yako lazima ufinye finye?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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mkenyan wrote:Amores wrote:Zenge wrote:Question: How many of you would walk into heavy gunfire to rescue your own brother, whether you have a pistol or not??? How many of you would stretch out their hand and ask a small kid to run to them for safety in the midst of freshly shot dead bodies??? How many?? Please tell? This was the mission of every person sent into the mall-to save the people- RECCE,KDF,etc. And they did not have their brothers in their. Again,I am not discrediting what this man has don,but we need to hail everyone who did not chiken out of going into that building and came out alive or dead. You know,we will never get to hear the stories of the soldiers who died,those who braved the sniper and and how they died.Will we? it does not belittle what abdul haji did but i agree with you. putting your live on the line for your country (strangers) and knowing full well that the people you do it for would mostly likely never know is one of the highest form of heroism. and our soldiers do it all the time - risking their lives and dying for us and at the behest of at times clueless if not conflicted leaders, and we never get to even know it. Without taking anything away from our security forces, let it be acknowledged that for them it is a job. Many do it gallantly, but it is not inconceivable that there are some who given a choice would rather not confront danger. Abdul had a choice. But even after he knew his brother was out of danger, he stayed on. I think that is an important difference. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 846
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Zenge wrote:Question: How many of you would walk into heavy gunfire to rescue your own brother, whether you have a pistol or not??? How many of you would stretch out their hand and ask a small kid to run to them for safety in the midst of freshly shot dead bodies??? How many?? Please tell? Half the people here ni wa 'tunaomba serikali itusaidie', and as someone said, they are the first ones to complain about taxes...
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