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Attack at Westgate
poundfoolish
#1601 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:12:24 PM
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Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
TAZ wrote:


@ Poundfoolish, I believe you are referring to these guys....RECCE!


Dont they have a standard uniform? Ama tuseme its the same casual behaviour of our cops?? Sad Sad


They are moles, and moles dont put on particular uniform.
For safety!


Rapid deployment, sometimes inabidi uende ulivyo, unapeana wallet 'nishikie hapa' and you dive into the vehicle.. and jump into action..

Sad to see one of them was wounded.. Sad
smano
#1602 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:14:18 PM
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Joined: 12/13/2006
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An insight into terrorism and the complexity:

C&P

"As everyone keeps wondering and asking "what Al Shabaab want"... We must understand that terrorist groups like Al Shabaab organise in 4 broad levels. So what "they want" depends on what level "they are". The key to destroying them, might accordingly lie in figuring out what level the guys you're dealing with are at.

1. Financiers - aka. The owners. These guys are about the business. They couldn't care less about the fanaticism, as much they care to use it for profit. They trade mostly in reliability & being taken seriously by current & future underworld partners. True crazed fanatics never make it this far.

2. The specialists - These vary in degree of fanaticism. They can be mildly interested to bug-eyed crazy. What doesn't vary is the actual skill-set they bring to the table. Doctors, Imams, Writers, Bomb makers, hackers, drill sergeants, accountants, organisers, passport forgers etc etc. That is why even if their level of fanaticism was high enough for delirium & visions of Janna, they rarely get sent for the suicide missions. They function mostly like consultants and the org prefers to rely on the ones that aren't so crazy because they last longer and are more likely to avoid detection.

3. The Mujahideen - The deadly but expendable pawns. They tend to be 16-26yrs old and naive, removed from desperate situations & brought up on a cocktail of brainwashing, isolation & extreme fundamentalist teachings. They live only for the promise of Janna (Paradise). And its hard to blame them... the promised land has got to be better than where they came from or currently are at. But just in case a crisis of faith were to strike a mujahid, they are kept under close scrutiny & a rigorous training regimen to prevent their thinking too much &/or escape. So as a mujahid if you don't believe in Janna... you're pretty much still going to be sent there.

4. Supporters/ Sympathisers - These tend to be either the least skilled to the most volatile members of the organisation. No one will trust them with anything sensitive because they're more likely to fumble the situation rather than help. They tend to be the most vocal & incompetent. But they might still serve a useful purpose for rhetoric & small jobs now & then. Often asked to do so as "proof" of their allegiance. The truth though, is that from outside they might look like part of it but internally the "owners" see them more of as sympathisers. The organisation will most often tend to use sympathisers as red herrings or bait to muddy the water as various agencies hunt them down."

~ Fauz Noir ~

BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
Magigi
#1603 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:16:45 PM
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[quote=simonkabz]Here is an account that sounds much more plausible-

......At 3am, the troops started rehearsing for the final assault, braving a drizzle. The final assault started at about 5.45. When the attack started, the terrorists are said to have concentrated on killing as many hostages as possible....

http://www.standardmedia...rists-down&pageNo=1[/quote]
At 11.42am, two Indian men carrying heavy suitcases were escorted out from the side of the mall. Five minutes later, military trucks and Land Rovers started arriving at the mall.
What is this?
poundfoolish
#1604 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:21:30 PM
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Joined: 12/2/2009
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Location: Nairobi
[quote=simonkabz]Here is an account that sounds much more plausible-

......At 3am, the troops started rehearsing for the final assault, braving a drizzle. The final assault started at about 5.45. When the attack started, the terrorists are said to have concentrated on killing as many hostages as possible....

http://www.standardmedia...rists-down&pageNo=1[/quote]


Events highlighted here start from Monday morning. Ask what happened from Saturday afternoon, all through Sunday to the Monday morning..

and also bear in mind this lines.

"Initial attacks were chaotic as the chain of command between the police and military not only worsened things but also resulted in the military shooting dead a General Service Unit commander."
Magigi
#1605 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:22:24 PM
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Joined: 3/31/2008
Posts: 7,081
Location: Kenya


Synonyms - insignificant
insignificant, inconsequential, insubstantial, immaterial, trivial, minor, venial, trifling, of little/no importance, of little/no consequence, of no account, no-account, irrelevant

Kizungu ngumu sana!
smano
#1606 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:23:42 PM
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Joined: 12/13/2006
Posts: 2,589
Magigi wrote:


Kizungu ngumu sana!


Insignificant???

Shame on you
BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US AND WANTS US TO BE HAPPY!
poundfoolish
#1607 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:25:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/2/2009
Posts: 2,458
Location: Nairobi
smano wrote:
An insight into terrorism and the complexity:

C&P

"As everyone keeps wondering and asking "what Al Shabaab want"... We must understand that terrorist groups like Al Shabaab organise in 4 broad levels. So what "they want" depends on what level "they are". The key to destroying them, might accordingly lie in figuring out what level the guys you're dealing with are at.

1. Financiers - aka. The owners. These guys are about the business. They couldn't care less about the fanaticism, as much they care to use it for profit. They trade mostly in reliability & being taken seriously by current & future underworld partners. True crazed fanatics never make it this far.

2. The specialists - These vary in degree of fanaticism. They can be mildly interested to bug-eyed crazy. What doesn't vary is the actual skill-set they bring to the table. Doctors, Imams, Writers, Bomb makers, hackers, drill sergeants, accountants, organisers, passport forgers etc etc. That is why even if their level of fanaticism was high enough for delirium & visions of Janna, they rarely get sent for the suicide missions. They function mostly like consultants and the org prefers to rely on the ones that aren't so crazy because they last longer and are more likely to avoid detection.

3. The Mujahideen - The deadly but expendable pawns. They tend to be 16-26yrs old and naive, removed from desperate situations & brought up on a cocktail of brainwashing, isolation & extreme fundamentalist teachings. They live only for the promise of Janna (Paradise). And its hard to blame them... the promised land has got to be better than where they came from or currently are at. But just in case a crisis of faith were to strike a mujahid, they are kept under close scrutiny & a rigorous training regimen to prevent their thinking too much &/or escape. So as a mujahid if you don't believe in Janna... you're pretty much still going to be sent there.

4. Supporters/ Sympathisers - These tend to be either the least skilled to the most volatile members of the organisation. No one will trust them with anything sensitive because they're more likely to fumble the situation rather than help. They tend to be the most vocal & incompetent. But they might still serve a useful purpose for rhetoric & small jobs now & then. Often asked to do so as "proof" of their allegiance. The truth though, is that from outside they might look like part of it but internally the "owners" see them more of as sympathisers. The organisation will most often tend to use sympathisers as red herrings or bait to muddy the water as various agencies hunt them down."

~ Fauz Noir ~



Very true..
Probably some of the 'owners' apart from the ones whos charcoal business in Kismayo and Jubaland was destroyed, the others have taken tea at WestgatE
Magigi
#1608 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:25:43 PM
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Joined: 3/31/2008
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Location: Kenya
smano wrote:
Magigi wrote:


Kizungu ngumu sana!


Insignificant???

Shame on you

His PR Person should correct this immediately!
bkismat
#1609 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:28:33 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2009
Posts: 2,375
Magigi wrote:
smano wrote:
Magigi wrote:


Kizungu ngumu sana!


Insignificant???

Shame on you

His PR Person should correct this immediately!

Very bad.Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
Siringi
#1610 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:29:44 PM
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Joined: 6/8/2013
Posts: 2,517
Phew ! 85 QUESTION KENYANS WANT ANSWERED BY SIRKAL -
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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