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Attack at Westgate
kysse
#1521 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:44:57 PM
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These theories...I hate to imagine that one or two of these fellows are walking among us.
But Security comes from above,the soldiers are just as human and can only do stuff within their capacity.



AlphDoti
#1522 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:47:28 PM
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I'm impressed so far by the sober manner Wazua is discussing this issue.
Special credit goes to all of you, especially @simonkabz , @mosesotieno, and @poundfoolish
ecstacy
#1523 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:50:14 PM
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Al Shabaab - Kenyan government forces used explosives in carrying out "a demolition" of the building, burying 137 hostages.

Kenya Govt spokesman Manoah Esipisu - Denied. He says three floors of the building collapsed after a fire started by the al-Shabab attackers caused structural weakness.
KulaRaha
#1524 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:53:32 PM
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According to me, this is the timeline I remember, based on volunteer and eyewitness feedback:

12.30 pm gunmen started firing in westgate
until 3.30 pm situation being managed by civilians, a few plainclothes, and reservists and mystery mzungus that dont exist.
3.30ish a group known as anti terrorism unit arrived and stormed the building. On scene says they confirm to have cleared basement, ground, 2nd and third floors. Many people rescued from here on...most survivors rescued around this time. Most corroborate this saying they were hiding for between 3 and 4 hours.
5.30pm army arrives, atu told to stand down. Army hold positions gained by atu successfully.
11.00 pm volunteers confirm army told to retreat and give up all ground held.
6.00 am army re-enter westgate to find terrorists all over the place.
From Sunday morning the place becomes a tragedy.

This is my recollection. Pls don't shoot me, but try add corrections etc etc.

Lets build a solid timeline and see what really happened.
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Forester
#1525 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:00:20 PM
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Location: Epicentre - Ngamia 1
The question on everyone's mind: WHERE ARE THE HOSTAGES?!!!! Sad Sad Sad
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simonkabz
#1526 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:02:28 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
According to me, this is the timeline I remember, based on volunteer and eyewitness feedback:

12.30 pm gunmen started firing in westgate
until 3.30 pm situation being managed by civilians, a few plainclothes, and reservists and mystery mzungus that dont exist.
3.30ish a group known as anti terrorism unit arrived and stormed the building. On scene says they confirm to have cleared basement, ground, 2nd and third floors. Many people rescued from here on...most survivors rescued around this time. Most corroborate this saying they were hiding for between 3 and 4 hours.
5.30pm army arrives, atu told to stand down. Army hold positions gained by atu successfully.
11.00 pm volunteers confirm army told to retreat and give up all ground held.
6.00 am army re-enter westgate to find terrorists all over the place.
From Sunday morning the place becomes a tragedy.

This is my recollection. Pls don't shoot me, but try add corrections etc etc.

Lets build a solid timeline and see what really happened.


Recce company?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
bkismat
#1527 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:05:17 PM
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Joined: 10/23/2009
Posts: 2,375
KulaRaha wrote:
According to me, this is the timeline I remember, based on volunteer and eyewitness feedback:

12.30 pm gunmen started firing in westgate
until 3.30 pm situation being managed by civilians, a few plainclothes, and reservists and mystery mzungus that dont exist.
3.30ish a group known as anti terrorism unit arrived and stormed the building. On scene says they confirm to have cleared basement, ground, 2nd and third floors. Many people rescued from here on...most survivors rescued around this time. Most corroborate this saying they were hiding for between 3 and 4 hours.
5.30pm army arrives, atu told to stand down. Army hold positions gained by atu successfully.
11.00 pm volunteers confirm army told to retreat and give up all ground held.
6.00 am army re-enter westgate to find terrorists all over the place.

From Sunday morning the place becomes a tragedy.

This is my recollection. Pls don't shoot me, but try add corrections etc etc.

Lets build a solid timeline and see what really happened.

Was there any kind of negotiations between GOK and the terrorists? Otherwise what is the reason for the actions between 11.00 pm SAT and 6.00am Sun?
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
TAZ
#1528 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:05:57 PM
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Joined: 11/14/2007
Posts: 4,152
simonkabz wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
According to me, this is the timeline I remember, based on volunteer and eyewitness feedback:

12.30 pm gunmen started firing in westgate
until 3.30 pm situation being managed by civilians, a few plainclothes, and reservists and mystery mzungus that dont exist.
3.30ish a group known as anti terrorism unit arrived and stormed the building. On scene says they confirm to have cleared basement, ground, 2nd and third floors. Many people rescued from here on...most survivors rescued around this time. Most corroborate this saying they were hiding for between 3 and 4 hours.
5.30pm army arrives, atu told to stand down. Army hold positions gained by atu successfully.
11.00 pm volunteers confirm army told to retreat and give up all ground held.
6.00 am army re-enter westgate to find terrorists all over the place.
From Sunday morning the place becomes a tragedy.

This is my recollection. Pls don't shoot me, but try add corrections etc etc.

Lets build a solid timeline and see what really happened.


Recce company?


The Israeli special forces (the Sayeret)? I'm convinced they were there....
ZZE123
#1529 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:11:11 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Al Shabaab - Kenyan government forces used explosives in carrying out "a demolition" of the building, burying 137 hostages.

Kenya Govt spokesman Manoah Esipisu - Denied. He says three floors of the building collapsed after a fire started by the al-Shabab attackers caused structural weakness.

Hope this is propagandaPray Pray Pray
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ecstacy
#1530 Posted : Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:16:59 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
ZZE123 wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Al Shabaab - Kenyan government forces used explosives in carrying out "a demolition" of the building, burying 137 hostages.

Kenya Govt spokesman Manoah Esipisu - Denied. He says three floors of the building collapsed after a fire started by the al-Shabab attackers caused structural weakness.

Hope this is propagandaPray Pray Pray


I sure hope so. I posted this evidence from site to let you make your own assertions.

This picture was taken on Monday afternoon. No roof or floor had collapsed then. Just a burning generator room. Set alight by KDF as it turns out.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-...7111504_314416129_n.jpg


Fast forward to Tuesday, when we were 'in control of all floors' with heavy explosions and gunfire heard Mon evening . The site was rubble. Check this video confirmation- http://www.youtube.com/w...YI&feature=youtu.be


There are so many questions to be answered at the right time.
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