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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/31/2010 Posts: 154
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urstill1 wrote:Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house. Yes, it's being done as we speak. One thing to keep in mind, the initial investment is capital heavy. (the solar panels, battery, inverters e.t.c. If you have the quids, it's a smart move. One thing that you have to consider first and foremost your daily/monthly/annual energy consumption. The size of your house doesn't really matter that much, unless you'll be running AC and heat. You can quickly do this by adding up all your electrical appliances and electronics energy requirement. Or, by looking at your monthly electrical bill to figure out how much kWs (kilowatts) you are consuming. One thing I wish was happening is to allow us, the mwananchi to sell the power that we generate from solar panels back to KPLC. Good luck! “None but ourselves can free our minds.”
- Bob Marley
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Penny-Stocker wrote:urstill1 wrote:Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house. Yes, it's being done as we speak. One thing to keep in mind, the initial investment is capital heavy. (the solar panels, battery, inverters e.t.c. If you have the quids, it's a smart move. One thing that you have to consider first and foremost your daily/monthly/annual energy consumption. The size of your house doesn't really matter that much, unless you'll be running AC and heat. You can quickly do this by adding up all your electrical appliances and electronics energy requirement. Or, by looking at your monthly electrical bill to figure out how much kWs (kilowatts) you are consuming. One thing I wish was happening is to allow us, the mwananchi to sell the power that we generate from solar panels back to KPLC. Good luck! I pray for the net-metering thing to be introduced. Hiyo ingine ni total rip-off!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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Penny-Stocker wrote:urstill1 wrote:Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house. Yes, it's being done as we speak. One thing to keep in mind, the initial investment is capital heavy. (the solar panels, battery, inverters e.t.c. If you have the quids, it's a smart move. One thing that you have to consider first and foremost your daily/monthly/annual energy consumption. The size of your house doesn't really matter that much, unless you'll be running AC and heat. You can quickly do this by adding up all your electrical appliances and electronics energy requirement. Or, by looking at your monthly electrical bill to figure out how much kWs (kilowatts) you are consuming. One thing I wish was happening is to allow us, the mwananchi to sell the power that we generate from solar panels back to KPLC. Good luck! @penny stocker Thats the only part i dont agree with. Solar power is very limiting. In order to generate enough energy to power all the usual electrical appliance e.g iron boxes, fridge - you will need a massive battery bank. You should also remember that the sun is for some days not available. Your battery bank needs to be atleast 3 times bigger than your daily needs. This is referred to as autonomy to allow you to enjoy the service for a few days when the sun does not charge you bank. Solar should be considered as a complement to the AC mains. FYI when you calculate the KWh cost for solar and compare with hydro and other sources, Solar is still more expensive in terms of production costs. This is from some projects i have carried out for schools and children's homes in Lodwar and the neighbouring areas. You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/10/2008 Posts: 365
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it's easy to power TV, home theater, laptops from solar, etc
the challenging appliance is the refrigerator,
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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Visit chloride exide on enterprise rd for a quote if in nairobi. They gave me one of 250k for a similar hse. With a kenya power bill of at least 5k per month, you are home and dry after 50months.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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majimaji wrote:
Visit chloride exide on enterprise rd for a quote if in nairobi. They gave me one of 250k for a similar hse. With a kenya power bill of at least 5k per month, you are home and dry after 50months.
you need to factor future value. ..250 today isn't the same 50 months later...go for hybrid system I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2009 Posts: 171
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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majimaji wrote:
Visit chloride exide on enterprise rd for a quote if in nairobi. They gave me one of 250k for a similar hse. With a kenya power bill of at least 5k per month, you are home and dry after 50months.
By the 50th Month you would have changed the battery packs at least once...and a few inverters would have chpapad/blown up. ION: I think its things like iron boxes and hairdryers plust instant water heaters that cant be run effectively by a solar power; but fridge iko sawa since the wattage is low although it will be running the longest! (will consume more but in small quantities) My cents! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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XSK wrote:Penny-Stocker wrote:urstill1 wrote:Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house. Yes, it's being done as we speak. One thing to keep in mind, the initial investment is capital heavy. (the solar panels, battery, inverters e.t.c. If you have the quids, it's a smart move. One thing that you have to consider first and foremost your daily/monthly/annual energy consumption. The size of your house doesn't really matter that much, unless you'll be running AC and heat. You can quickly do this by adding up all your electrical appliances and electronics energy requirement. Or, by looking at your monthly electrical bill to figure out how much kWs (kilowatts) you are consuming. One thing I wish was happening is to allow us, the mwananchi to sell the power that we generate from solar panels back to KPLC. Good luck! @penny stocker Thats the only part i dont agree with. Solar power is very limiting. In order to generate enough energy to power all the usual electrical appliance e.g iron boxes, fridge - you will need a massive battery bank. You should also remember that the sun is for some days not available. Your battery bank needs to be atleast 3 times bigger than your daily needs. This is referred to as autonomy to allow you to enjoy the service for a few days when the sun does not charge you bank. Solar should be considered as a complement to the AC mains. FYI when you calculate the KWh cost for solar and compare with hydro and other sources, Solar is still more expensive in terms of production costs. This is from some projects i have carried out for schools and children's homes in Lodwar and the neighbouring areas. In Kenya not North America bro!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Urstill1, You might consider this.I know of someone who installed it 2 years back and he showed KP the middle finger. http://access-collective.com/energy/wind-turbine/Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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XSK wrote:Penny-Stocker wrote:urstill1 wrote:Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house. Yes, it's being done as we speak. One thing to keep in mind, the initial investment is capital heavy. (the solar panels, battery, inverters e.t.c. If you have the quids, it's a smart move. One thing that you have to consider first and foremost your daily/monthly/annual energy consumption. The size of your house doesn't really matter that much, unless you'll be running AC and heat. You can quickly do this by adding up all your electrical appliances and electronics energy requirement. Or, by looking at your monthly electrical bill to figure out how much kWs (kilowatts) you are consuming. One thing I wish was happening is to allow us, the mwananchi to sell the power that we generate from solar panels back to KPLC. Good luck! @penny stocker Thats the only part i dont agree with. Solar power is very limiting. In order to generate enough energy to power all the usual electrical appliance e.g iron boxes, fridge - you will need a massive battery bank. You should also remember that the sun is for some days not available. Your battery bank needs to be atleast 3 times bigger than your daily needs. This is referred to as autonomy to allow you to enjoy the service for a few days when the sun does not charge you bank. Solar should be considered as a complement to the AC mains. FYI when you calculate the KWh cost for solar and compare with hydro and other sources, Solar is still more expensive in terms of production costs. This is from some projects i have carried out for schools and children's homes in Lodwar and the neighbouring areas.   ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Kaigangio wrote:XSK wrote:Penny-Stocker wrote:urstill1 wrote:Is it possible to power home purely on green(solar) energy? Consider a 5-beroomed house with all the electrical appliances that befits a 5-bedroomed house. Yes, it's being done as we speak. One thing to keep in mind, the initial investment is capital heavy. (the solar panels, battery, inverters e.t.c. If you have the quids, it's a smart move. One thing that you have to consider first and foremost your daily/monthly/annual energy consumption. The size of your house doesn't really matter that much, unless you'll be running AC and heat. You can quickly do this by adding up all your electrical appliances and electronics energy requirement. Or, by looking at your monthly electrical bill to figure out how much kWs (kilowatts) you are consuming. One thing I wish was happening is to allow us, the mwananchi to sell the power that we generate from solar panels back to KPLC. Good luck! @penny stocker Thats the only part i dont agree with. Solar power is very limiting. In order to generate enough energy to power all the usual electrical appliance e.g iron boxes, fridge - you will need a massive battery bank. You should also remember that the sun is for some days not available. Your battery bank needs to be atleast 3 times bigger than your daily needs. This is referred to as autonomy to allow you to enjoy the service for a few days when the sun does not charge you bank. Solar should be considered as a complement to the AC mains. FYI when you calculate the KWh cost for solar and compare with hydro and other sources, Solar is still more expensive in terms of production costs. This is from some projects i have carried out for schools and children's homes in Lodwar and the neighbouring areas. I'm looking at it from a different angle: Reliability
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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@ XSK Your statement Quote:FYI when you calculate the KWh cost for solar and compare with hydro and other sources, Solar is still more expensive in terms of production costs. is fallacious misleading and incorrect... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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@ Urstill1 You cannot be helped unless you get some numbers coming your way... Yes, it is possible to install a PV system which is capable of powering all your needs in that 5 bedroomed house including refrigerators, iron boxes, electric kettles, TV, and water pumps and any other domestic appliance. To start with the residential houses electrical requirements differ from one developer to the next depending on taste...for example there are those five bedroomed houses in Runda which the owners have installed A/Cs in each and every bedroom including sitting room and apart from that they have instantaneous water heaters to each and every bathroom in each of the bedroom and there is also a hot water cylinder (geyser) as a back up and a separate undersink water heater in the kitchen.. A similar dwelling in Kahawa Sukari do not have the A/C (or probably has one in the sitting room), no geyser etc etc... So you have to be specific on the appliances that you would wish to have in your house and that is where we start... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Kaigangio wrote:@ Urstill1
You cannot be helped unless you get some numbers coming your way...
Yes, it is possible to install a PV system which is capable of powering all your needs in that 5 bedroomed house including refrigerators, iron boxes, electric kettles, TV, and water pumps and any other domestic appliance.
To start with the residential houses electrical requirements differ from one developer to the next depending on taste...for example there are those five bedroomed houses in Runda which the owners have installed A/Cs in each and every bedroom including sitting room and apart from that they have instantaneous water heaters to each and every bathroom in each of the bedroom and there is also a hot water cylinder (geyser) as a back up and a separate undersink water heater in the kitchen..
A similar dwelling in Kahawa Sukari do not have the A/C (or probably has one in the sitting room), no geyser etc etc...
So you have to be specific on the appliances that you would wish to have in your house and that is where we start...
Naongea juu ya hiyo ya Runda lakini toa AC
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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@urstill1 Is the house existing or you are planning to build one?? In case it is an existing one, give us the electrical services details and the available appliances. In case it has not been built, below could be an optimised scenario.... I am going to assume the following: 1. That for every bedroom, you will have a bathroom. 2. That there will be an extra toilet/bathroom for day visitors. 3. That you don't have a servants quarter. 4. That the house will be a Bungalow So here we go: The electrical services in the house will be as follows: 1. Sitting room (Assume size 5m x 5m) (i) 2No lighting points (ii) 4No Socket outlets 2. Bedrooms (i) 1No lighting point (ii) 1No Socket outlet 3. Bathroom(i) 1No Lighting point (ii) 1No instantaneous water heater (shower) 4. Kitchen (i) 1 No Lighting point (ii) 3No Socket outlets (iii) 1No Cooker outlet point (iv) 1No Undersink water heater 5. Store(i) 1No Lighting point (ii) 1No Socket outlet 6. Appliances in the house(i) 1No Refrigerator (ii) 1No Microwave Unit (iii)1No Electric kettle (iv) 1No Iron box (v) 1No 42" LCD/Plasma TV unit (vi) 1No DVD player (vii) 1No Music System (viii)2No Personal computers (ix) 1No Hot water cylinder (geyser) 7. Security Lights(i) 4No lighting points Before we go to the finer details could you confirm that the above information is consistent with your expectation... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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Kaigangio wrote:@ XSK Your statement Quote:FYI when you calculate the KWh cost for solar and compare with hydro and other sources, Solar is still more expensive in terms of production costs. is fallacious misleading and incorrect... @Kaigangio I still stand by that statement. The per unit cost of power generated by solar power generation system is higher than hydro. Just do your research mine is based on practical experience. If the reverse was true everyone including the utilities would be on solar. Dont be cheated by the long life span of the PV module. Do your math! BTW I dont mean to say that there are something that cannot be powered by solar power but if you ask me anything more 2 KW should be on mains its more economical. FYI Check the link below for those who are thinking that this only applies to NA. http://erepository.uonbi.../handle/123456789/19021
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Kaigangio wrote:@urstill1
Is the house existing or you are planning to build one??
In case it is an existing one, give us the electrical services details and the available appliances.
In case it has not been built, below could be an optimised scenario....
I am going to assume the following:
1. That for every bedroom, you will have a bathroom.
2. That there will be an extra toilet/bathroom for day visitors.
3. That you don't have a servants quarter.
4. That the house will be a Bungalow
So here we go:
The electrical services in the house will be as follows:
1. Sitting room (Assume size 5m x 5m)
(i) 3No lighting points
(ii) 4No Socket outlets
2. Bedrooms
(i) 1No lighting point
(ii) 1No Socket outlet
3. Bathroom
(i) 1No Lighting point
(ii) 1No instantaneous water heater (shower)
4. Kitchen
(i) 1 No Lighting point
(ii) 3No Socket outlets
(iii) 1No Cooker outlet point
(iv) 1No Undersink water heater
5. Store
(i) 1No Lighting point
(ii) 1No Socket outlet
6. Appliances in the house
(i) 2No Refrigerator
(ii) 1No Microwave Unit
(iii)1No Electric kettle
(iv) 1No Iron box
(v) 2No 42" LCD/Plasma TV unit
(vi) 1No DVD player
(vii) 1No Music System
(viii)2No Personal computers
(ix) 1No Hot water cylinder (geyser)
7. Security Lights
(i) 4No lighting points
Before we go to the finer details could you confirm that the above information is consistent with your expectation...
Great! There are 3 2-roomed servant quarter detached from the main house. Apart from that, the rest are as corrected!
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Rank: Hello Joined: 10/8/2013 Posts: 3
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Hey Subzero well i think that your statement is right like its easy to power technical products from solar. Thanks!!
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