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Attack at Westgate
mwekez@ji
#691 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:32:06 PM
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Sad
Kratos
#692 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:32:14 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2011
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Mukiri wrote:
segemia wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Apparently the initial assault has failed. Only one gunman wounded. Attackers killed a few hostages and threw their body parts outside after helicopters landed on the roof. Strategy is to get them to run out of ammo.

Said ammo may be 'run-out' on the hostages. Priority should not be placed on capture or end of this nightmare but on the safe recovery of the hostages first. No more collateral damage!


Dude, where have you been. It's a suicide mission. The attackers do intend to kill all hostages with maximum casualties to the rescue forces. By all indications, the hostages are just temporary collateral. It's bloody sad.

Police boss with positive message: "Tell hostages that help is steps away. Security men all over the building. Stay put."

Been trying to help. Suicide mission? Maximum casualties? Dangerous words those!! Isn't that a deadly assumption?

I would rather they be engaged in negotiations and nobody else dies, even if such negotiation was to take a month than rush in on assumptions, end it soon, but lose another so many livesSad


What? You must be joking. These idiots came to kill not to negotiate. At this time may be an ambush might do. More hostages will be saved.

Bro, everything changes when you are a hostage or have a loved one as hostage. Its when you wish you matter, or atleast have one amongst you that matters.

This situation calls for intelligent, well thought analyzed and sober decisions. Emotions will only lead to more deaths.

Has anyone taken time to talk to them? Have a psychologist gauge their intentions, state of mind. Or just talk to them while someone else stealthily steals his way in and trys to rescue hostages?

Gun battle itawes saidia? Imagine it was you in there as hostage while police pumped bulletsSad


True

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Litro
#693 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:33:24 PM
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Location: KENYA
digitek1 wrote:
Litro wrote:
Kasin hasnt spoken yet...at least cameron has sympathised with us.

Shame on you he's called manUK rink twirra


Thanks for the update...i should start doing twirra.
Magigi
#694 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:34:26 PM
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Joined: 3/31/2008
Posts: 7,081
Location: Kenya
Litro wrote:
Kasin hasnt spoken yet...at least cameron has sympathised with us.

Wacha kupanua domo bila facts...He called very early in the morning!
...Who is kasin...Ukabila wako utakumaliza!
masukuma
#695 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:36:14 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
blackcobra wrote:
kitunda wrote:
Woi! a father on NTV saying his 2 yr old son is among hostages...he wants to go in and rescue his son! The pain!

very very sad and traumatizing....ooooh dear God please save them. Them must live to glorify your Name and give testimonies . A 2year old son.......Pray

oh dear Lord... I have a 2 yr old son... what do these animals want with a toddler?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
famooz
#696 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:38:51 PM
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Joined: 11/19/2007
Posts: 2,047
Elder wrote:
These guys should not be shot dead. They should be captured alive and given the most horrible death ever. Just lost my mentor and close friend to them. A real great person too. This is the worstest day of my life.

Elder,please check your e-mail.I have tried to call you on 0733 but can't go through.
Pole sana my friend.
Litro
#697 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:39:13 PM
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Location: KENYA
Magigi wrote:
Litro wrote:
Kasin hasnt spoken yet...at least cameron has sympathised with us.

Wacha kupanua domo bila facts...He called very early in the morning!
...Who is kasin...Ukabila wako utakumaliza!


Peace!
Mukiri
#698 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:40:20 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
masukuma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Apparently the initial assault has failed. Only one gunman wounded. Attackers killed a few hostages and threw their body parts outside after helicopters landed on the roof. Strategy is to get them to run out of ammo.

Said ammo may be 'run-out' on the hostages. Priority should not be placed on capture or end of this nightmare but on the safe recovery of the hostages first. No more collateral damage!


Dude, where have you been. It's a suicide mission. The attackers do intend to kill all hostages with maximum casualties to the rescue forces. By all indications, the hostages are just temporary collateral. It's bloody sad.

Police boss with positive message: "Tell hostages that help is steps away. Security men all over the building. Stay put."

Been trying to help. Suicide mission? Maximum casualties? Dangerous words those!! Isn't that a deadly assumption?

I would rather they be engaged in negotiations and nobody else dies, even if such negotiation was to take a month than rush in on assumptions, end it soon, but lose another so many livesSad

I tend to think so - these guys normally don't have an exit plan. for them its take out as many persons as you can before they die. I am actually fearing that they are waiting to ambush person who want to make that move.

True, ambush could be a real possibilitySad

All said I have the confidence in our mboys, and their collaboration with other intelligence Israel/US. For a minute tho' I was scared when Kimaiyo was said to want to get into the gun battle? Brain vs brawn

Proverbs 19:21
washiku
#699 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:43:23 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
I feel so much anger and bitterness at heart...but one thing is for sure. We shall overcome. SOON.
ecstacy
#700 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:46:45 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
masukuma wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Apparently the initial assault has failed. Only one gunman wounded. Attackers killed a few hostages and threw their body parts outside after helicopters landed on the roof. Strategy is to get them to run out of ammo.

Said ammo may be 'run-out' on the hostages. Priority should not be placed on capture or end of this nightmare but on the safe recovery of the hostages first. No more collateral damage!


Dude, where have you been. It's a suicide mission. The attackers do intend to kill all hostages with maximum casualties to the rescue forces. By all indications, the hostages are just temporary collateral. It's bloody sad.

Police boss with positive message: "Tell hostages that help is steps away. Security men all over the building. Stay put."

Been trying to help. Suicide mission? Maximum casualties? Dangerous words those!! Isn't that a deadly assumption?

I would rather they be engaged in negotiations and nobody else dies, even if such negotiation was to take a month than rush in on assumptions, end it soon, but lose another so many livesSad

I tend to think so - these guys normally don't have an exit plan. for them its take out as many persons as you can before they die. I am actually fearing that they are waiting to ambush person who want to make that move.


From Al Shabaab itself:

"HSM Press Office ‏@HSMPress_ 5h

It's really really hard to stop someone who's willing to die. It's even harder when death is desired as the ultimate reward. #Westgate"
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