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Attack at Westgate
Much Know
#571 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:03:46 PM
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hindi ni riu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
hindi ni riu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
There was alert issued to diplomatic staff to get away from the scene and stay indoors as a second attack was anticipated.

Meanwhile, target group Kenyans wako Oktoberfest and 7s.


Terrorism shouldn't stop our lives. If it does ...they have achieved their objective. Am off to donate blood...n then to 7s.


I agree we shouldn't stop our lives as they win. However, are you aware of any serious security precautions for large gatherings today?..




yep. but by that account ...no church today.... no shopping today ..no work tomorrow..etc. Life stops coz of a couple of suckers. I either way wouldn't expect them there anyway...if they intended to.....that wd hv been their first plan this weekend. n if they show up ...well...its war!

I agree and will continue going shopping at westgate and wherever i please, i hope the people responsible now see what their job truly entails, we are fighting pure evil. I am sure this terrorist bribed somebody somewhere. We all need to be more vigilant all the same.
Ras Kienyeji Man
Much Know
#572 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:10:46 PM
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freiks wrote:
Much Know wrote:
I am afraid i cannot agree the police have done a good job here, making excuses for them will lead us nowhere. With all due respect to the brave police who have taken risks and even lost their lives , it's a difficult job(but it's their job mind you and it comes up occasionally), problems galore, from simple stuff like cordoning off the scene (God forbid they have explosives), to handling hostages (one terrorist seems to have walked away)to the first armed people having the courage to enter the building being Indian reservist in ordinary clothes as the police in combat gear hang outside, no setting up a control center at the site and giving one intelligent person authority(is it kimaiyo?,or karangi, gsu boss,head of anti terrorist unit whom we have not seen, kimemia who is in charge, it should be kimaiyo or ATU boss), to the lack of the many simple technologies already available to carry out surveillance in the building, no press center, no specialized hostage situation team (we should be at least able to train 20 or so guys to the level of American/Israeli swat teams and this is the police boss job to ensure we train). I hate to bring the D- angle, but it seems to begin at the top! They cannot just focus on collecting bribes in new cars and when it comes to such tuko buree! That force needs an overhaul, i think former commissioner Ali was headed in the right direction.


GO BECOME A COP AND BEHAVE LIKE JACK BAUER OR LEAVE OUR BRAVE BOYS TO DO THEIR WORK

WONT BE SURPRISED IF ONE OF THEM WAS BRIBED by some of these somewhere guys to bring those guns and grenades, I DON'T LIKE YOUR POLICE AS MUCH AS YOU DO, too bad if you/"your friend" is one of them, the buck stops with one of them. I will be vindicated by the end of this saga.
Ras Kienyeji Man
McReggae
#573 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:11:48 PM
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Devastating, just now this lady family friend of ours has received the sad news that her boss is among the dead. He was widower with two kids.....my prayers goes to them.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
ecstacy
#574 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:13:06 PM
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hindi ni riu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
hindi ni riu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
There was alert issued to diplomatic staff to get away from the scene and stay indoors as a second attack was anticipated.

Meanwhile, target group Kenyans wako Oktoberfest and 7s.


Terrorism shouldn't stop our lives. If it does ...they have achieved their objective. Am off to donate blood...n then to 7s.


I agree we shouldn't stop our lives as they win. However, are you aware of any serious security precautions for large gatherings today?..




yep. but by that account ...no church today.... no shopping today ..no work tomorrow..etc. Life stops coz of a couple of suckers. I either way wouldn't expect them there anyway...if they intended to.....that wd hv been their first plan this weekend. n if they show up ...well...its war!


My friend, do we learn? The same way we underestimated the warnings about Westgate and despite it being the most manned commercial centre, here we are.

Something needs to change. It's not business as usual.
seppuku
#575 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:13:56 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Just back from aga khan. plenty of blood donors, lots of volunteers. now going to see two families, one lost a 15 yr old daughter, other lost mum and daughter.


Checked in at MP Shah and they have notices saying they are unable to accept anymore blood today. Maybe tomorrow. Lot's of volunteers at Kencom.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
ecstacy
#576 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:26:52 PM
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Finally, someone who uses 'intel' when given!!

EVENT CANCELLATION:
We wish to inform all our dear fans that Big 5 Breweries and the organizing committee of #Oktoberfest2013 has taken a decision to cancel day 3 of the festival following an advisory from security agencies.We condole with the families of all those who have lost loved ones.May you find the strength to make it through this time.
Meduza
#577 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:51:07 PM
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Siringi wrote:
Oh yes there are some idiotic too tweets from

very disgraceful. Ok charity begins at home lakini. . . Tho


With Americans as friends you dont need enemies


@kiash


yap those are the American Friends for you....they have a way of showing sympathy...
You cant win, unless you first begin....
Magigi
#578 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:51:16 PM
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jshegu ‏@jshegu 14m

Muslim man wrote a short prayer for a Xtian man 2memorize it in case the terrorists asked him 2say something 4rm Quran #WeAreOne @RobertAlai
jaggernaut
#579 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:06:08 PM
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Numerous press reports (local and foreign) say that the attackers were targeting non-muslims. Like this reporting by the GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER:

Quote:
On the second floor Joshua Hakim, who had stopped for a snack on his way to watch a rugby match, saw gunmen, some of whom looked to be teenagers, strapped with ammunition belts, carrying AK-47 assault rifles. "They were firing indiscriminately, they shot a lot of people," he said. During a lull in the firing the attackers called out in Swahili, a language widely spoken in Kenya and the rest of east Africa, for Muslims to identify themselves and leave.

Covering the Christian name on his ID with his thumb he approached one of the attackers, whom he described as Somali, and showed them the plastic card. "They told me to go. Then an Indian man came forward and they said, 'What is the name of Muhammad's mother?' When he couldn't answer they just shot him."


According to the DAILYMAIL MEWSPAPER, some were asked to recite a certain muslim prayer, or give the name of the prophet's mother, those who did were set free while those who couldn't were shot.

Quote:
Charles Karani, 41, an IT engineer, said: ‘I hid under a car with my daughters, and I saw the men line up maybe 40 people and ask them who was Muslim, and if they were to prove it by saying the name of the Prophet’s mother. Those who got it wrong were shot.
hoodrat
#580 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:32:10 PM
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Kenya shall overcome!ION the Westgate is Israeli owned.I think that made it a prime target and explains the prescence of Israeli security.
Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today!
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