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AU map mass pullout from ICC!
McReggae
#11 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:06:05 AM
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nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


On their own people!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Gathige
#12 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:13:34 AM
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Joined: 3/29/2011
Posts: 2,242
McReggae wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


On their own people!!!!


So the crimes in Iraq by Bush and Blair on "other pple" does not meet the ICC threshold?
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Kaigangio
#13 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:14:16 AM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


Which world are you leaving in my friend!!!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#14 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:17:07 AM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
Gathige wrote:
McReggae wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


On their own people!!!!


So the crimes in Iraq by Bush and Blair on "other pple" does not meet the ICC threshold?


@McReggae..crimes against humanity does not go beyond the borders huh?!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
McReggae
#15 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:20:25 AM
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Kaigangio wrote:
Gathige wrote:
McReggae wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


On their own people!!!!


So the crimes in Iraq by Bush and Blair on "other pple" does not meet the ICC threshold?


@McReggae..crimes against humanity does not go beyond the borders huh?!


You guys are obviously putting words in my mouth, I was just reinforcing @nakujua's post, sijaingilia your beef with the 'west'
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
jaggernaut
#16 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:39:19 AM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


In as much as I do not support the pull out from the ICC, you need to read world history to get your facts right.

In the past 80ys the most and worst violence has happened in Europe. More than 70m citizens were killed in Europe during WW2, of which 60% were innocent civilians. Then add hundreds of thousands killed in recent ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, Kosovo etc. Infact Kenyan soldiers went to keep peace in Yugoslavia.
In Asia, there was the genocide on the Chinese by the Japanese, Vietnam war, Cambodia, Tibet, Korean war etc.
In the middle east we have had unimaginable violence and human suffering in the recent past in Iraq, Syria, Palestine etc.
Within the past 80yrs the original inhabitants of North America and Australia have continued to be suppressed in the worst form such that some of them are now extinct.
McReggae
#17 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:53:08 AM
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Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
We worry ourselves silly about USA and Britain and I kid you not, Americans and Britons do not have the same fears about their leaders as we have in Kenya and Africa by extension!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
ecstacy
#18 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 11:59:03 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2008
Posts: 4,449
Kaigangio wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


Which world are you leaving in my friend!!!


@nakujua - a reminder for you.

The deadliest war in world history in absolute terms of total dead occurred during this 80 years you referring to! It was largely fought on Western soil! World War II claimed an estimated 80 MILLION lives!! Yes, we had the Nuremburg Trials in Germany, but for Germans and their allies!! but think on..

1. Who bombed Dresden to dust when the War was already won? How many lives were subsequently lost?

2. Who gave the Nazi scientists new identity and nationalities to carry on their research - into weapons of mass destruction amongst other things?

3. Don't een get me started on the Balkan conflict.

Yes, we have issues in Africa, but solutions will only come from us (as crude as they may seem to you) not US/UK, not China, not Russia, not Brazil, who ALL have vested interests.

Africa arise! Time to take destiny into our own hands!




kingfisher
#19 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 2:03:41 PM
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Joined: 4/9/2008
Posts: 2,824
ecstacy wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


Which world are you leaving in my friend!!!


@nakujua - a reminder for you.

The deadliest war in world history in absolute terms of total dead occurred during this 80 years you referring to! It was largely fought on Western soil! World War II claimed an estimated 80 MILLION lives!! Yes, we had the Nuremburg Trials in Germany, but for Germans and their allies!! but think on..

1. Who bombed Dresden to dust when the War was already won? How many lives were subsequently lost?

2. Who gave the Nazi scientists new identity and nationalities to carry on their research - into weapons of mass destruction amongst other things?

3. Don't een get me started on the Balkan conflict.

Yes, we have issues in Africa, but solutions will only come from us (as crude as they may seem to you) not US/UK, not China, not Russia, not Brazil, who ALL have vested interests.

Africa arise! Time to take destiny into our own hands!




Amen. Continue educating them!!! Ask them where the Red Indians race disappeared to and how? And they keep saying americans are the holiest... bure kabisa.
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
Rahatupu
#20 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53:34 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 1,982
Location: matano manne
kingfisher wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Africans need the ICC the most, look at all those africans employed at the hague - hawa heads of states just want to increase unemployment in Africa.

Plus Africans are the biggest culprits of crimes against humanity, I don't have the figures but I have a gut feeling that over the past, say 80 years - its Africans who have committed the worst atrocities including murder and displacement. In fact I would not be surprised if the order of the worst continents in terms of crimes against humanity is;

1. Africa
2. Asia
3. S/America,
4. Europe
5. ... and the best continent is N/America (lets also join Australia and is neighbours here)


Which world are you leaving in my friend!!!


@nakujua - a reminder for you.

The deadliest war in world history in absolute terms of total dead occurred during this 80 years you referring to! It was largely fought on Western soil! World War II claimed an estimated 80 MILLION lives!! Yes, we had the Nuremburg Trials in Germany, but for Germans and their allies!! but think on..

1. Who bombed Dresden to dust when the War was already won? How many lives were subsequently lost?

2. Who gave the Nazi scientists new identity and nationalities to carry on their research - into weapons of mass destruction amongst other things?

3. Don't een get me started on the Balkan conflict.

Yes, we have issues in Africa, but solutions will only come from us (as crude as they may seem to you) not US/UK, not China, not Russia, not Brazil, who ALL have vested interests.

Africa arise! Time to take destiny into our own hands!




Amen. Continue educating them!!! Ask them where the Red Indians race disappeared to and how? And they keep saying americans are the holiest... bure kabisa.


what about forcible transfer of,population that was slave trade? making Brazil the country with the most Negros in the world outside Africa? The extinction of Aborigines of Australia? history is full of the evils of the European races against humanity.
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