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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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The Govnor's wife has and continues to spearhead a leadership education for young women that is laudable to say the least. I dont think that the city hall incident will affect the success of this programme but the perceptions that people may have may cast a negative light. Some say that the Govnor and wife should have come out strongly condemning all forms of violence. What are your thoughts? Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites.  Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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butterflyke wrote:The Govnor's wife has and continues to spearhead a leadership education for young women that is laudable to say the least.
I dont think that the city hall incident will affect the success of this programme but the perceptions that people may have may cast a negative light.
Some say that the Govnor and wife should have come out strongly condemning all forms of violence.
What are your thoughts? ...I watched the live debate at City Hall and one Kanjura stood up and said the "slapper" is sexually starved at home... Probably she should start from there and say all is well... And yes I agree with you she should have issued a statement (I believe there are writers who can craft this incident and exonerate her...me included!!!)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Why are you doing this? What is violence?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/17/2010 Posts: 1,163 Location: Sudan
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What kidero did was wrong. But the critics, especially county reps are hypocrites. One of them, a lady who was loudest in press conference for Govn to resign was later to confess that they just wanted to threaten Kidero ndio "atoboke" ie atoe pesa....extortionists "Peace is our profession, War is our business" ...Unknown
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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Muriel wrote:Why are you doing this? What is violence? I didn't think it through.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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tycho wrote:Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense. sielewi... Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense. sielewi... Perfect,just the way it is meant to be-@tycho rarely seeks to be undestood  I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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Amores wrote:butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense. sielewi... Perfect,just the way it is meant to be-@tycho rarely seeks to be undestood when he last posted in Swahili, I understood him Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:Why are you doing this? What is violence? I didn't think it through. Symbols, you're questions led me to an interesting find. I found even deeper understanding of the 'traditional philosophy' of the 'Afrikana', and the Kingdom of heaven. Thinking together si hatia.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:Why are you doing this? What is violence? I didn't think it through. Symbols, you're questions led me to an interesting find. I found even deeper understanding of the 'traditional philosophy' of the 'Afrikana', and the Kingdom of heaven. Thinking together si hatia. Go on. It's that second question.What is the ego trying to defend?I'm taken aback by it or the implications posed by the possible answers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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butterflyke wrote:Amores wrote:butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense. sielewi... Perfect,just the way it is meant to be-@tycho rarely seeks to be undestood when he last posted in Swahili, I understood him Kupinga, ni kupiga; hata kama si kwa mateke. Kwani neno ni upanga na hamna tendo bila neno. Vipi basi mpinzani asiwe mpigani? Na vipi binadamu apate amani, na kunawiri ila kwa ncha ya upanga?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:Why are you doing this? What is violence? I didn't think it through. Symbols, you're questions led me to an interesting find. I found even deeper understanding of the 'traditional philosophy' of the 'Afrikana', and the Kingdom of heaven. Thinking together si hatia. Go on. It's that second question.What is the ego trying to defend?I'm taken aback by it or the implications posed by the possible answers. It's the mirror again. One is often forced to look away, because the vampire begins to show its teeth. It wants to suck the other's blood. Defending the ego is vampirism, the dance of the undead. The vampire wants to live, at all odds, for eternity, but it can't live and let live. It doesn't know how, and it's days are numbered by a 'silver bullet'. Such is the selfish being.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Amores wrote:butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense. sielewi... Perfect,just the way it is meant to be-@tycho rarely seeks to be undestood There's no hiding without exposing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Muriel wrote:Why are you doing this? What is violence? I didn't think it through. Symbols, you're questions led me to an interesting find. I found even deeper understanding of the 'traditional philosophy' of the 'Afrikana', and the Kingdom of heaven. Thinking together si hatia. Go on. It's that second question.What is the ego trying to defend?I'm taken aback by it or the implications posed by the possible answers. It's the mirror again. One is often forced to look away, because the vampire begins to show its teeth. It wants to suck the other's blood. Defending the ego is vampirism, the dance of the undead. The vampire wants to live, at all odds, for eternity, but it can't live and let live. It doesn't know how, and it's days are numbered by a 'silver bullet'. Such is the selfish being. Does one defend the ego or does the ego defend itself?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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@Tycho,tukutane wapi? I promise not to bring a shrink I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/1/2010 Posts: 3,024 Location: Hapa
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tycho wrote:butterflyke wrote:Amores wrote:butterflyke wrote:tycho wrote:Amores wrote:tycho wrote:The leadership they trying to foster is very likely to be violent at the core, so renouncing violence is equal to not running the program.
But having said that, I suspect the critics are hypocrites. Is the real Tycho back What do you mean that critics are hypocrites? That they do not think that hiyo slap was a result of LBT or that hata kama ni LBT,he should have restrained himself ? They are hypocrites because by denying it they affirm it. What's criticism if not violence? Lol, even Gandhi was violent. We must accept that Man always has violence as tool of ego defense. sielewi... Perfect,just the way it is meant to be-@tycho rarely seeks to be undestood when he last posted in Swahili, I understood him Kupinga, ni kupiga; hata kama si kwa mateke. Kwani neno ni upanga na hamna tendo bila neno. Vipi basi mpinzani asiwe mpigani? Na vipi binadamu apate amani, na kunawiri ila kwa ncha ya upanga?   Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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