@Taz, i am a big fun of Bundasliga and i have been watching the way Dortmund play flawless football. I can assure you that they are going to top that group. It is among the few teams that has a subs-bench worth talking about. They have like 16 good regular players. They are even better than Bayern at the moment.

BTW ya mungu ni mengi, tuwache hapo.

Need to declare that i am a Man u diehard but open to discuss football without goggles unlike ....threads za hapo juu!!!

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Robert Lewandawski are banging in goals for fun. Dortmund are going to be one tricky customer.

@King G, as you can see am not even beating my chest this time. Europe kunaendelea kuwa kugumu bana!

This is a vintage MAn U performance....Rooney is on fire

Wayne Rooney: A player reborn, that was one of his most sublime performances in a United shirt.....a new signing indeed!

I'm talking the behaviour of our defenders especially Rio before the goal!!!....not the goal itself!!!!

Christiano Ronalo: 21 hat tricks for R. Madrid, 206 goals in 204 matches,simply phenomenal the most complete player I have watched, he can fit in any team!!!

@Smano....Juve drew away to Copenhagen last night, they are usually very good in Serie A but just can't seem to replicate that performance in the CL.

Btw i think CR7's stats are so impressive (even though they are not better than Messi's) but i have always been of the opinion that he's not quite a complete player.

Skill & Technique

CR7....He is king of the step-over and has plenty more tricks up his sleeve that, with the help of his lightning pace, can take him past defenders. he can be guilty of one step-over too many or a bit of flamboyance & showmanship that wasn't really necessary; sometimes costing his team possession

Messi....He has a near perfect combination of technique, speed, balance and intelligence which give him the uncanny ability to sprint into a crowd of players and come out the other side with the ball still at his feet and in complete control. Whilst Messi isn't the fastest of sprinters, the speed at which his feet can move can seem almost impossible and combined with his abundance of skill, can often create the illusion that the ball is just glued to his feet.

- Team Play -

Messi....For someone with so much skill and so many solo goals to his name, Messi has a remarkable reputation as a team player and is very rarely accused of holding onto the ball longer than he should have done. His scoring record is obviously closely matched by Ronaldo, but it's the assists count that shows a clear gap in Messi's favour.


CR7.....Ronaldo has often been the subject of frustration for both fans and team-mates, often guilty of trying to do too much on his own when using a team mate might have been a better option. Despite this issue, his assist record is a very healthy one, although someway short of Messi.

Btw you can read more from the link below, i think its a sober analysis of the two players for the last 5 years.

http://messivsronaldo.net/

Messi has his fans around: This season we will see how Neymar is big for Brazil and almost carries them whereas somehow Messi will be better than his at Barca but can't carry Brazil!!!!

Barca is made for Messi, CR7 is made for any team!!!

Argentina boss!!!