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Uhuru - I can rule from ICC,his lawyer,Kay -No you cant!
Nandwa
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:14:34 AM
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Inside one weekend, Counsel and Client seem to hold differing opinion on a matter that binds them together.

See QC Kay presentation in Court captured below

http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/qublytz/-/index.html

Uhurus take on the same matter here

http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/n5lqhy/-/index.html

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Much Know
#2 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 1:11:12 PM
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Kay is absolutely right with all due respect to the President, he should never attend a single ICC sitting.
Ras Kienyeji Man
tycho
#3 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:02:06 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

Inside one weekend, Counsel and Client seem to hold differing opinion on a matter that binds them together.

See QC Kay presentation in Court captured below

http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/qublytz/-/index.html

Uhurus take on the same matter here

http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/n5lqhy/-/index.html



I see no difference. And both are 'correct'. One is for the Court, and one for you and 'me'. Otherwise the matter under consideration is whether Kay should be Uhuru.

But really, shouldn't we all be Uhuru, and Ruto? Shouldn't we all be on trial?

Who was neutral during P.E.V? 'I' for one wasn't. 'I' wanted 'change', and somehow the tyranny of numbers appeared to favor my chungwa side (And now when I consider how the last elections were won, and what 'tyranny of numbers' means, and considering how the former P.M. fared now and then, it becomes very difficult to tell what is what). In a sense, I have never accepted and moved on.

On the other hand, even though the chungwa side was aggrieved, the instinctive reaction, the tears and anger worsened things. I remember being so incensed and beginning my journey to statehouse. It was only midway that I realized I was embarking on a fool's errand.

Looking at it in retrospect, I thank the government handlers for the prompt swearing in ceremony, otherwise, things would have been worse.

By declaring theft on government, Chungwa tore the constitution.

Once the constitution was torn, the devil's gates were opened and we collapsed into a state of nature. Imagine seeking mercy, in the name of God, and instead receiving nothing but flames. What would you expect from God if not vengeance?

I remember going to a respectable and middle class church for mass and finding empty seats. Where were the believers? It seemed to me that the Church had long ceased to exist.

So now I wonder what Justice is there if the Waki list is handled by ICC? Isn't justice served when we collectively confess our sins, and heal one another? For surely, justice should be medicine that heals.

While I don't know whether the ICC will grant Mr. Kay's request, I know we need to face this matter with a spirit of truth and accountability, and love for goodness and justice.

BGL
#4 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:27:21 PM
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Our president has spoken.
Haiwezekani Ruto na Uhuru wote wawili kuwa @the hague at the same time.
That is the real talk.
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
maka
#5 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07:06 PM
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Speaking a totally different tune...
possunt quia posse videntur
Angelica _ann
#6 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:10:14 PM
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just watched PORK speak, he is right. the court must also compromise.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
nakujua
#7 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:11:55 PM
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its easy, by November the deputy's case will have collapsed
poundfoolish
#8 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:12:27 PM
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He is about to head to the family resort in Arusha?
maka
#9 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:12:53 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
just watched PORK speak, he is right. the court must also compromise.


Read article 73...
possunt quia posse videntur
Shak
#10 Posted : Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:15:34 PM
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He! No more Mr. Nice guy. Game on. We're in it for the long haul. The Lord be with us
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