[quote=Wanjy]
Got this problem of High blood pressure for 3yrs now, I have been under drugs for an year + not forgetting I have been using insulin three times a day for 20 yrs +, I weigh 54 Kgs.

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A 2008 USDA study shows consuming hibiscus tea lowers blood pressure in a group of prehypertensive and mildly hypertensive adults

Availability was discussed here
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=24370

Went to some place near BS (bus station) and they sell some funny juice made from vegetables. This woman was doing it as i watched and when you ask for it she asks you "why do you want this juice" since its custom made for your type of problem. I told her mine is just for the sake am not sick anywhere. As she prepared it I just felt as though any disease I could be having has just been healed. She mixed nearly all types of veges....sukuma, spinach, cucumber, pilipili, aloe vela, dhania, carrots, french beans and many more i cant even remember them. Then she added natural honey atleast to make it drinkable. Since yesterday when i talk to anyone I have to shield my mdomo coz ya halufu, when i go to pee the whole toilet smells aloe vela, I tried pupu.... waah its even worse (the smell) Am hoping any disease that was hidden somewhere is gone or more worse I have gotten the worst disease ever imaginable in this world. Anyway am a believer in natural medicine sometimes though they need discipline and are slow healers

@freiks What you cracked me

Are you a Comedian by any Chance @Freiks?

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Stop taking that Blood Pressure medicine immediately!!! High blood pressure is the biggest hoax in medicine. One persons blood pressure changes at all times, you lie down your blood pressure lowers, you stand up it goes up, you walk around it or run it goes up, you get scared or worried it goes up.

Now this is all on the same person at different times and situations in the day, now take into consideration that there are different people of different ages, height, race, weight and body types and guess what normal blood pressure is just one number 120/80 which the medical community keeps lowering and adjusting to create imaginary diseases like prehypertension etc so that now starting from numbers as low as 115/75 doctors will start suggesting to you that you are unwell. Let nobody cheat you, it is not in the best interests of doctors for you to be well. What better way to create a customer than to create worry about something that needs to be monitored regularly yet they know it changes every minute.

If you are otherwise healthy and are feeling well I would say stop worrying about what your blood pressure is. Maybe your normal is higher than other peoples normal, but once you start taking medicine you will never stop and the doctors will not be complaining about that.

Let the wazua doctors start throwing stones.

Kusadikika is misleading the public

This is how many young educated people will start killing their parents. Your parents are active, healthy people, sio wagonjwa but they are now just starting to get old. So you think now that you have insurance let me take them to the doctors to get a checkup, big mistake.

If you are not sick DO NOT go seeing a doctor for a checkup. Doctors see sick people, they see all people through the goggles of disease and all things they can treat.

Eat well, take care of yourself and if you feel sick then go see a doctor to treat your sickness but DO NOT go seeing a doctor to ask him if you are healthy because that is when they start being creative with things like High Blood Pressure.

So @Maka, ask your mzee how the medicines make him feel. If he feels better when he is on them than when he is off them then he should continue taking them lakini akikwambia how bad he feels when taking them and he is fine without them mwambie azitupe kwa choo na asizitumie tena.

HBP iko, i pray no one ever ends up in dialysis because of 'with all due respects' @kusadikika peculiar advice above, just take a BP machine and measure people with your eyes and then the machine, you will soon be able to pima people with your eyes, the evidence that it leads to kidney disease, heart disease(you can imagine an overworked heart is just like an overworked engine), and strokes is overwhelming, chunga sana!

To put your BP under control you need to:

1. Conduct your own investigation and research on this condition

2. Engage in a dialogue with a practitioner who has a syncretic approach to medicine and develop a plan of treatment and management that suits you

3. Integrite the plan of treatment into your worldview. Worldviews are etiological factors.

@Kusadikika, yes, blood pressure may rise due to position, activity and the like. But the story doesn't end there. Pressure has effects like 'confusion'. Heart failure is a confusion of the heart in relation to other organ 'states'.

It follows that a normal must be sought by doctors.