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selah
#31 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 1:57:49 PM
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The opposition had raised fears that a tripartite alliance between Mr Kagame, Kenya’s Uhuru Kenyatta and President Museveni – manifested in their deal-rich joint meeting in Kampala followed by the launch on Wednesday of the largest berth in Mombasa - showed Tanzania was likely being side-lined on lucrative infrastructure investments on Rwanda prodding.

Rwanda was likely having an upper hand in diplomatic offensive following the strained relations, Mr Mbowe said, before asking how the Tanzanian government planned to address the problem. Rwanda’s Foreign Affairs Minister Louis Mushikiwabo did not receive our telephone to respond to Dar es Salaam’s overtures.


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Earlier, the Tanzanian PM rejected the notion had culminated in his country being marginalised by East African Community bloc members.

Latest regional deals have been signed behind the back of both Tanzania and Burundi, and President Museveni told journalists after a June 25 meeting in Entebbe with presidents Kenyatta and Kagame that there was no harm in making decisions and briefing other peers later.


http://www.monitor.co.ug...64/-/9tu2yo/-/index.html
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kaka2za
#32 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 2:15:26 PM
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Tz has natural resources, Kenya has human resources. Tz is most stable politically in the region. The monolithic CCM will rule for the next century. Kenya is politically unpredictable, NARC, PNU, TNA.

Invest in Tz and import Kenyan skilled labour!
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Wrong forever on the throne
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KulaRaha
#33 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 2:30:16 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Tz has natural resources, Kenya has human resources. Tz is most stable politically in the region. The monolithic CCM will rule for the next century. Kenya is politically unpredictable, NARC, PNU, TNA.

Invest in Tz and import Kenyan skilled labour!


Have you ever tried to get a Kenyan a work permit in Tz?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Those guy worship white South Africans, and fear their own brother the Kenyans.

Just try and see what happens....
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limanika
#34 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 2:33:05 PM
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[quote=selah]
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The opposition had raised fears that a tripartite alliance between Mr Kagame, Kenya’s Uhuru Kenyatta and President Museveni – manifested in their deal-rich joint meeting in Kampala followed by the launch on Wednesday of the largest berth in Mombasa - showed Tanzania was likely being side-lined on lucrative infrastructure investments on Rwanda prodding.

Rwanda was likely having an upper hand in diplomatic offensive following the strained relations, Mr Mbowe said, before asking how the Tanzanian government planned to address the problem. Rwanda’s Foreign Affairs Minister Louis Mushikiwabo did not receive our telephone to respond to Dar es Salaam’s overtures.


Quote:
Earlier, the Tanzanian PM rejected the notion had culminated in his country being marginalised by East African Community bloc members.

Latest regional deals have been signed behind the back of both Tanzania and Burundi, and President Museveni told journalists after a June 25 meeting in Entebbe with presidents Kenyatta and Kagame that there was no harm in making decisions and briefing other peers later.


http://www.monitor.co.ug...4/-/9tu2yo/-/index.html[/quote]


But I think TZ’s entry into the fray in DRC alongside UN peace keepers is Kagame’s biggest beef with TZ. These other reasons being bundled around are just but sideshows.
M7 is quite in the mix with Rwanda as far as DRC is concerned, where’s the wisdom in asking him to mediate?

Kagame can only be appeased if TZ pulls out of DRC.
murchr
#35 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 4:30:09 PM
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the deal wrote:
Which way Tz? UP UP UP....like it or not...there is a difference between me coming to u & say I will build you the biggest port in the region than you coming to me...begging for biz...who has bargaining power? My next investment is in Tz...a pal is starting an agribiz there.. he is in NY right now...raising capital...I have been to Dar before & all I saw is potential...humble folks...curious to know...not the know it all attitude & inflated egos I see in Kenya....my track record speaks for itself...well its not like i hate Kenya...i have lived here for sometime & i like it here but the attitudes...the egos...the tribalism...this tyranny of numbers crap gotta stop if Kenya was to take a leap...for now its Tz...


Why lie you just made my day. You just reminded me of my first boss. All the best with your/friend's business venture. Please share the progress as you go along.
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Fyatu
#36 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 4:49:22 PM
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the deal wrote:
Which way Tz? UP UP UP....like it or not...there is a difference between me coming to u & say I will build you the biggest port in the region than you coming to me...begging for biz...who has bargaining power? My next investment is in Tz...a pal is starting an agribiz there.. he is in NY right now...raising capital...I have been to Dar before & all I saw is potential...humble folks...curious to know...not the know it all attitude & inflated egos I see in Kenya....my track record speaks for itself...well its not like i hate Kenya...i have lived here for sometime & i like it here but the attitudes...the egos...the tribalism...this tyranny of numbers crap gotta stop if Kenya was to take a leap...for now its Tz...



until they stop thinking in Swahili then they we can debate about whether or not they are going up.......as for now they are playing CATCH-UP. Remember our GDP nominal is bigger by more 10b USD and growing...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29

dont even get me started on per capita GDP. Yes i know the numbers (low GDP per capita) are nothing to be proud of, but fact is with all those minerals, bigger land mass, bigger population they are still doing very poorly.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Fyatu
#37 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 4:55:01 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
the deal wrote:
Which way Tz? UP UP UP....like it or not...there is a difference between me coming to u & say I will build you the biggest port in the region than you coming to me...begging for biz...who has bargaining power? My next investment is in Tz...a pal is starting an agribiz there.. he is in NY right now...raising capital...I have been to Dar before & all I saw is potential...humble folks...curious to know...not the know it all attitude & inflated egos I see in Kenya....my track record speaks for itself...well its not like i hate Kenya...i have lived here for sometime & i like it here but the attitudes...the egos...the tribalism...this tyranny of numbers crap gotta stop if Kenya was to take a leap...for now its Tz...



until they stop thinking in Swahili then they we can debate about whether or not they are going up.......as for now they are playing CATCH-UP. Remember our GDP nominal is bigger by more 10b USD and growing...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29

dont even get me started on per capita GDP. Yes i know the numbers (low GDP per capita) are nothing to be proud of, but fact is with all those minerals, bigger land mass, bigger population they are still doing very poorly.



Until when they stop thinking in Swahili then they we can debate about whether or not they are going up.......as for now they are playing CATCH-UP. Remember our GDP nominal is bigger by more than 10 billion USD and growing link
Dont even get me started on per capita GDP. Yes i know the numbers (low GDP per capita) are nothing to be proud of, but fact is with all those minerals, bigger land mass, bigger population they are still doing very poorly.
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
murchr
#38 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 6:56:40 PM
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This blog: http://nakedchiefs.com/2...d-make-or-break-africa/ will be very interesting in the coming weeks/months.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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limanika
#39 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 7:22:54 PM
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murchr wrote:
This blog: http://nakedchiefs.com/2...d-make-or-break-africa/ will be very interesting in the coming weeks/months.


Interesting. Add no.16: Tanzania’s decision to send UN peace keepers in DRC and UN decision to transform TZ and SA backed peace keeping force in DRC into an offensive force. Instant impact on EAC
Rankaz13
#40 Posted : Friday, August 30, 2013 7:31:42 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Tz has natural resources, Kenya has human resources. Tz is most stable politically in the region. The monolithic CCM will rule for the next century. Kenya is politically unpredictable, NARC, PNU, TNA.

Invest in Tz and import Kenyan skilled labour!


Have you ever tried to get a Kenyan a work permit in Tz?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Those guy worship white South Africans, and fear their own brother the Kenyans.

Just try and see what happens....


I have known of some Kenyan hoteliers working for a top international hotel chain who took forever to acquire the work permits despite everything being in order. And even on landing there, one day some gov't official walked in and ordered them out hivyo tu fuaaa!Sad
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