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Average cost of standard railway gauge from Mombasa to Malaba!
josimar
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:44:22 PM
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A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.
Impunity
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:58:24 PM
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Impunity
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:04:08 PM
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josimar wrote:
A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.


Without corruption and local politician interference and with the Chinese speed this project should take 3 years...but nawezawait 5 years.

Railway is my thing and I wish the gaament can involve me in the design and setting up stages.

I know some of the best diesel locos from Germany which are as reliable as electric locos, the type of locos used in Israel.

ION:Israel being one of the tech-savvy country has no got no single kilometer of electric train; all trains are diesel propelled, in types of powerhouses pulling/pushing the wagos and other are DMU's. I once boarded one from Tel-Aiv to Haifa.

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dunkang
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:38:04 PM
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Impunity wrote:
josimar wrote:
A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.


Without corruption and local politician interference and with the Chinese speed this project should take 3 years...but nawezawait 5 years.

Railway is my thing and I wish the gaament can involve me in the design and setting up stages.

I know some of the best diesel locos from Germany which are as reliable as electric locos, the type of locos used in Israel.

ION:Israel being one of the tech-savvy country has no got no single kilometer of electric train; all trains are diesel propelled, in types of powerhouses pulling/pushing the wagos and other are DMU's. I once boarded one from Tel-Aiv to Haifa.


CORD fanatics will derail the project!
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mawinder
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:59:43 PM
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Impunity wrote:
josimar wrote:
A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.


Without corruption and local politician interference and with the Chinese speed this project should take 3 years...but nawezawait 5 years.

Railway is my thing and I wish the gaament can involve me in the design and setting up stages.

I know some of the best diesel locos from Germany which are as reliable as electric locos, the type of locos used in Israel.

ION:Israel being one of the tech-savvy country has no got no single kilometer of electric train; all trains are diesel propelled, in types of powerhouses pulling/pushing the wagos and other are DMU's. I once boarded one from Tel-Aiv to Haifa.


Even Kenya has electric trains.Anyway,like in all govt. Projects people have to eat.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:36:55 AM
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josimar wrote:
A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.

court cases too!!
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:27:44 AM
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the lunatic express took between 1896 and 1901 to construct between Mombasa and Kisumu. this is despite a number of resistances from a number of communities along the route some of which were nearly full blown wars.

the SGR is slightly wider (1.435m between the inside edges of the rails) than what we have. If we retain what we have, then we require a parallel way-leave alongside the lunatic Express.

As for mode of operation, the current is locomotive (where the engines pulls all the load from the front). What is proposed is different..... diesel-electric multiple unit (DEMU) where a diesel engine drives an electrical generator or an alternator which produces electrical energy. The generated current is then fed to electric traction motors on the wheels or bogies. this produces trains that gain speed faster and stops fasters
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dunkang
#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:55:49 AM
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Allank
#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:00:00 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Will this SGR be constructed along the path of the Lunatic Express or will it take its own course?
Will the Lunatic Gauge be uprooted henceforth or left to rote(spl)?


If only the politicians had the taxpayers intrest at heart they should have considered changing the current sleepers from the current one meter gauge to the SGR along the path of the lunatic express. considering KR has alot of idle rail lines all over the country this woould have drastically reduced the cost and duration of the project.
Kama kuoga ni usafi taulo lachafukani?
mkeiyd
#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:19:55 PM
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Allank wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Will this SGR be constructed along the path of the Lunatic Express or will it take its own course?
Will the Lunatic Gauge be uprooted henceforth or left to rote(spl)?


If only the politicians had the taxpayers intrest at heart they should have considered changing the current sleepers from the current one meter gauge to the SGR along the path of the lunatic express. considering KR has alot of idle rail lines all over the country this woould have drastically reduced the cost and duration of the project.


That would mean no train services between msa and nai for the entire duration of "changing sleepers". That's before taking into account the structural engineering details.
Impunity
#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:47:47 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Impunity wrote:
josimar wrote:
A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.


Without corruption and local politician interference and with the Chinese speed this project should take 3 years...but nawezawait 5 years.

Railway is my thing and I wish the gaament can involve me in the design and setting up stages.

I know some of the best diesel locos from Germany which are as reliable as electric locos, the type of locos used in Israel.

ION:Israel being one of the tech-savvy country has no got no single kilometer of electric train; all trains are diesel propelled, in types of powerhouses pulling/pushing the wagos and other are DMU's. I once boarded one from Tel-Aiv to Haifa.


Even Kenya has electric trains.Anyway,like in all govt. Projects people have to eat.


Yeah, diesel-electric; the powerhouse is on board.
The one we are talking about is that type suplied power by overhead cables or the third-rail.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:53:29 PM
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GGK wrote:
the lunatic express took between 1896 and 1901 to construct between Mombasa and Kisumu. this is despite a number of resistances from a number of communities along the route some of which were nearly full blown wars.

the SGR is slightly wider (1.435m between the inside edges of the rails) than what we have. If we retain what we have, then we require a parallel way-leave alongside the lunatic Express.

As for mode of operation, the current is locomotive (where the engines pulls all the load from the front). What is proposed is different..... diesel-electric multiple unit (DEMU) where a diesel engine drives an electrical generator or an alternator which produces electrical energy. The generated current is then fed to electric traction motors on the wheels or bogies. this produces trains that gain speed faster and stops fasters


Where is this diesel engine located? Is it located at the front of the whole train or located within selected wagons/coaches?
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josimar
#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:12:50 PM
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The locomotives will also be supplied from China, so the project comes with a full package.
MKWASI
#29 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:51:54 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Impunity wrote:
josimar wrote:
A project of this magnitude cutting across the landscape will surely encounter challenges eg, land displacements, environmental concerns, wildlife activists etc...I support the project but give it a timeline of 4 to 5 Years from now.


Without corruption and local politician interference and with the Chinese speed this project should take 3 years...but nawezawait 5 years.

Railway is my thing and I wish the gaament can involve me in the design and setting up stages.

I know some of the best diesel locos from Germany which are as reliable as electric locos, the type of locos used in Israel.

ION:Israel being one of the tech-savvy country has no got no single kilometer of electric train; all trains are diesel propelled, in types of powerhouses pulling/pushing the wagos and other are DMU's. I once boarded one from Tel-Aiv to Haifa.


CORD fanatics will derail the project!


Well said. I'm sure they are also on the planning stage!!Sad Sad Sad Let us hope the voice of reason shall prevail.
Impunity
#30 Posted : Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:03:59 PM
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josimar wrote:
The locomotives will also be supplied from China, so the project comes with a full package.


I would rather we do German locos than Chinese; RELIABILITY and motive POWER!

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