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KQ-11TH AUGUST 2009 STRIKE IS ON!
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mtaalam
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:09:00 AM
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Might just provide KQ the with best platform for restructuring. The service is still terrible and I don't think a pay hike can cure incompetence.

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Sasha
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:14:00 AM
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hmmm!

150% hike demanded at the time the company has announced a freeze in recruitment! I think the employees and management have gripped each others balls here and none is willing to loosen the grip.

Restructuring? This is a good chance to get rid of the older, nonperforming and incompetent flight attendants and pursers, promote from within and then embark on a mini recruitment drive!


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ecstacy
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:26:00 AM
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which airline will hire any of these employees if fired?Nothing to sweat as an investor.
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VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:35:00 AM
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I think KQ management should tell the striking employees to take a hike. Haraka. And find another airline that will hire staff. Even the mid-east carriers akina emirates are down-sizing.
*** You do not hear that emirates is firing coz they hire mostly non-emiratis so they just cancel the work visas. The employees can't show up for work & the downsizing is complete.

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VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:42:00 AM
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Are there any KQ employees who can shed more light on this matter?
*** 150% rise? It sounds silly to even ask for such a raise unless there are improvements in productivity.
**** Many airlines outsource the reservations & check-in. Perhaps KQ needs to do so immediately. There are many functions that KQ can get rid off without compromising quality.

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Sasha
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:53:00 AM
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Firing them is not very easy especially since I understand they have a CBA! Plus these are unionised and highly trained (I use this phrase loosely) employees. Getting other people to do it will not be easy!

Industrial action needs a 21 day notice (unless my info is wrong and outdated). So if this issue goes to court, the employees' strike threat will be deemed illegal giving management the right to dismiss all striking employees summarily!


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Njunge
#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:12:00 AM
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@Sasha,

I also thought so.......A strike can only be called if formal arbitration has failed.The notice should be 21 days.........but things might have changed.Afterall,this is the 21st century.

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Pierce
#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:19:00 AM
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Management + pilots make up 18% of total employees and they take home 71% of the company wage bill. Unionisable guys are offcourse 82 % and take home 29%..................ur take??
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VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:45:00 AM
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Chief... kweli... that is NORMAL... kwani u expect a pilot (training,experience) to make only 10x a janitor? I am NOT supporting crazy pay for pilots & management lakini generally the more education/training means higher pay. KQ's baggage handlers can't expect to make as much as engineers. Even an 18 yr old can become a baggage handler.
*** That's my take.

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VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:49:00 AM
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I am not saying KQ can fire them without cause BUT if the guys walk off the job without the proper process... then that is cause... Also since times are bad... KQ might not re-hire them OR not even fill the positions... Maybe it is time to lie low like an envelope... LOL... Naikuni is a masai like the lie low jamaa...

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