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Insurance Counters at NSE - Valuation & recommendation
hisah
#121 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:13:19 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
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Metasploit wrote:
Britam has been trading sideways for tooo long and today a spike(relative to past volumes) of 2M shares ahead of H1 announcement.This will either break up or down

Cartonists shade more light


@Hisah whats your view on Britam ?

100M shares traded back in May 2013 with VWAP around 8.30. Weeks later the price dipped to 7.50 and has steady reclaimed 8/- but moving sideways. Hard to make a call for now until trend becomes clear. Below 7.50, the trend is bearish while above 8.70 - 9 range confirms bullish resumption.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mibbz
#122 Posted : Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:44:33 PM
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murchr wrote:
muganda wrote:
murchr wrote:
Jubilee Net Profit - Ksh 882M
Gross Premiums +1.1B
Gross Revenue +13% to - Ksh11.94B

Kenya RE PAT - 1.19B
Gross Premiums +20% - 4B
Inv income - 1.2B
OP exp +34% - 513M
Tax +50%

Pan Africa
Profit - 800m
Anyone with the numbers pls share, i dont see much from the article apart from selling land.

Pan Africa
Gross premiums down (34%)
Other revenue increase 38%
Gross revenue down (15%)
Profit up 266% primarily due to
--fair value gains on unlisted investment
--1.5b gain fom net change in contract liabilities

https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-com...gs-ltd-half-year-results


Thank you @muganda So why the drum beats for a Pan Africa buy....



i think Sanlam will be looking for a buyout of this counter,numbers are good from other investment income and a good dividend coming up at end of year 2013.....only company with such a HUGE H1 gain in profit and ha such a massive gain in comparison to peers...
mwekez@ji
#123 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:22:27 AM
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Britam has appointed Francis Muthaura as director #Must.Be.A.Move.To.Get.Government.Business
Metasploit
#124 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:40:31 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Britam has appointed Francis Muthaura as director #Must.Be.A.Move.To.Get.Government.Business


They have taken long to announce H1 results!

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
mwanahisa
#125 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 10:57:00 AM
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I expect BRITAM's results to be satisfactory, although I do not expect earnings growth to be anywhere near as spectacular as PanAfrica Insurance.

POINT TO NOTE: BRITAM'S STAKE IN EQUITY BANK HAS GROWN IN VALUE BY APPROXIMATELY 4 BILLION SHS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. I expect about 50% of this to be reported in the P&L under Fair Value Gains on AFS Financial Assets.

Metasploit wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Britam has appointed Francis Muthaura as director #Must.Be.A.Move.To.Get.Government.Business


They have taken long to announce H1 results!

dunkang
#126 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 11:19:22 AM
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Metasploit wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Britam has appointed Francis Muthaura as director #Must.Be.A.Move.To.Get.Government.Business


They have taken long to announce H1 results!

There is no point in reporting bad news in a hurry! cc: KCB
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

mwanahisa
#127 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 11:22:12 AM
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dunkang wrote:
There is no point in reporting bad news in a hurry! cc: KCB


@dunkang, are you privy to some information like the Exchange Bar patrons?
dunkang
#128 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 11:33:23 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
dunkang wrote:
There is no point in reporting bad news in a hurry! cc: KCB


@dunkang, are you privy to some information like the Exchange Bar patrons?

Not at all! But this delays are telling/worrying and as human beings, we must draw conclusions aka speculate!
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

mwekez@ji
#129 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 11:43:01 AM
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dunkang wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
dunkang wrote:
There is no point in reporting bad news in a hurry! cc: KCB


@dunkang, are you privy to some information like the Exchange Bar patrons?

Not at all! But this delays are telling/worrying and as human beings, we must draw conclusions aka speculate!


cc: KK cc: @Kausha cc: @VVS
mwanahisa
#130 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2013 11:50:04 AM
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dunkang wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
dunkang wrote:
There is no point in reporting bad news in a hurry! cc: KCB


@dunkang, are you privy to some information like the Exchange Bar patrons?

Not at all! But this delays are telling/worrying and as human beings, we must draw conclusions aka speculate!


Sawa @dunkang. I understand your apprehension regarding the delay in the results. Nonetheless, there is no reason as far to worry as far as I know. Remember, Britam still has another 2 weeks till the end of the regulatory reporting period on 31st August 2013. Liberty Holdings has also not reported. As far as I can tell, the deal is not losing any sleep over it, notwithstanding his interest in the counter.
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