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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Siringi wrote:Cant belief the caffichi stori has made it to wazua  there are guys who believed it and made real cheddar. It is all about timing and knowing your seasons. My uncle told it to me. . .kikiumana you talk to the headmistresses of the boarding schools near you. They may not eat you as badly as the middlemen and cartels wa soko. Hata shule haisaidii. A girls school has 1200 students. 1 caffichi is eaten by 10 students so school needs 120 caffichis in one eating. Make a lunch and supper affair they eat 240. Now Jagger has 30000 caffichis, how long will he take to clear the stock? Watoto watagoma after one week.Even cows refuse if you make it an everyday affair. Try somethibg else or do mixed farming ie divide it into 4 quaters the weka onion, skuma, spinach and cabbage. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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You guys are scaring the chap!
Personal experience: planted 18, 000 pieces. Sold 15, 000 of them at 22bob each. Total 330k. Expenses on seeds, fertilizer, labour and a truck of manure approx. 60k on the higher side. Duration 90 days.
Go for it. If you can get irrigation water you will always make money. Secret is to plant when others are not and water. Most farmers depend on rain.
Currently, I am expanding our dam!
Last week a piece in the shamba was going between 30-50bob! Avg cost of producing a cabishi is like 6 - 8 bob!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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@maka., where are doing the onions? Kajiado?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Bigchick wrote:
Hata shule haisaidii.
A girls school has 1200 students.
1 caffichi is eaten by 10 students so school needs 120 caffichis in one eating.
Make a lunch and supper affair they eat 240.
Now Jagger has 30000 caffichis, how long will he take to clear the stock?
Watoto watagoma after one week.Even cows refuse if you make it an everyday affair.
Try somethibg else or do mixed farming ie divide it into 4 quaters the weka onion, skuma, spinach and cabbage.
Big chick! you have managed to divide a cabbage among 10 students.salut
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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radio wrote:You guys are scaring the chap!
Personal experience: planted 18, 000 pieces. Sold 15, 000 of them at 22bob each. Total 330k. Expenses on seeds, fertilizer, labour and a truck of manure approx. 60k on the higher side. Duration 90 days.
Go for it. If you can get irrigation water you will always make money. Secret is to plant when others are not and water. Most farmers depend on rain.
Currently, I am expanding our dam!
Last week a piece in the shamba was going between 30-50bob! Avg cost of producing a cabishi is like 6 - 8 bob! We are not scaring him we are giving him possible challenges so as to manage his expectation. Please tell him where you sold yours and how long it took and what happened to the 3000 coz you planted 18000. Your above scenario is near real than the one he projected ealier. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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radio wrote:@maka., where are doing the onions? Kajiado? Kiserian.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Bigchick wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Lolest! wrote:Good for you to plant. But take your mind off the 80 bob price. Cobweb Theorem is always at play in such markets. There will be serious oversupply in a few weeks Of course timing is quite important. Wholesaling at 40bob would still give you about 1m after factoring expenses. Even selling at a throw away price of 20bob will give you 600k. This after just 3 months. Lower that to 10 bob (am being modest by not saying 5 bob) coz thats yhe price middlemen buy at.Talk to farmers in Kimende Lari area. And they are good at timing, giving false promise the first week then coming back when you are desperate and willing to sell even at 3 bob. Start with establishing ready market then grow them. Otherwise theory sounds good while practical ni balaa tupu. Good luck. The middle men must be making unbelievable profits coz the cheapest i've bought cabbage past year is 40bob and highest is 100bob. Currently price is 80bob for a cabbage of about 2kg.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Bigchick wrote:Siringi wrote:Cant belief the caffichi stori has made it to wazua there are guys who believed it and made real cheddar. It is all about timing and knowing your seasons. My uncle told it to me. . .kikiumana you talk to the headmistresses of the boarding schools near you. They may not eat you as badly as the middlemen and cartels wa soko. Hata shule haisaidii. A girls school has 1200 students. 1 caffichi is eaten by 10 students so school needs 120 caffichis in one eating. Make a lunch and supper affair they eat 240. Now Jagger has 30000 caffichis, how long will he take to clear the stock?Watoto watagoma after one week.Even cows refuse if you make it an everyday affair. Try somethibg else or do mixed farming ie divide it into 4 quaters the weka onion, skuma, spinach and cabbage. I think the nairobi population of 5m can absorb 30k cabbages. What if i drop 5k cabbages at Kangemi, another 5k at Umoja, 5k at dagoretti, 5k at mlolongo, 5k at Kitengela, and 5k at kasarani? I believe this can be done in one single day.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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radio wrote:You guys are scaring the chap!
Personal experience: planted 18, 000 pieces. Sold 15, 000 of them at 22bob each. Total 330k. Expenses on seeds, fertilizer, labour and a truck of manure approx. 60k on the higher side. Duration 90 days.
Go for it. If you can get irrigation water you will always make money. Secret is to plant when others are not and water. Most farmers depend on rain.
Currently, I am expanding our dam!
Last week a piece in the shamba was going between 30-50bob! Avg cost of producing a cabishi is like 6 - 8 bob!  I believe it's doable with the right timing and inputs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Rankaz13 wrote:Bigchick wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Lolest! wrote:Good for you to plant. But take your mind off the 80 bob price. Cobweb Theorem is always at play in such markets. There will be serious oversupply in a few weeks Of course timing is quite important. Wholesaling at 40bob would still give you about 1m after factoring expenses. Even selling at a throw away price of 20bob will give you 600k. This after just 3 months. Lower that to 10 bob (am being modest by not saying 5 bob) coz thats yhe price middlemen buy at.Talk to farmers in Kimende Lari area. And they are good at timing, giving false promise the first week then coming back when you are desperate and willing to sell even at 3 bob. Start with establishing ready market then grow them. Otherwise theory sounds good while practical ni balaa tupu. Good luck. I know of places pande za Nyeri, Laikipia, etc where farm-gate prices are 3bob each. Badala ya kulima, why not become a middleman/broker yourself? This must be the easiest way to do it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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Please don't ever cheat yourself about cabbages and potatoes. Zina wenyewe. Take the advice above. Start with trying to sell the 2 bob ones then you'll get to understand what exactly happens in this market. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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Am smelling the money . . .$€$€$€£¥¢trail right here on this thread! Now this story PRINCE CHARLES' LOVE FOR RABUON FROM NYANZA BOOSTS DEMANDwe only need to sneak in waru from Meru, Molo,-Narok, Limuru and kinangofu /Nyandarua to the Royal family dinner table and we are in bizna. Or better still bribe those gourmands to write about the healthiest veges from area code +254. . . Halafu get the Prince to test tea made from miraa or muguka for dessert. If only there was a way of freezing the caffishi and getting it to China and Europe. . . "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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jaggernaut wrote:Bigchick wrote:Siringi wrote:Cant belief the caffichi stori has made it to wazua there are guys who believed it and made real cheddar. It is all about timing and knowing your seasons. My uncle told it to me. . .kikiumana you talk to the headmistresses of the boarding schools near you. They may not eat you as badly as the middlemen and cartels wa soko. Hata shule haisaidii. A girls school has 1200 students. 1 caffichi is eaten by 10 students so school needs 120 caffichis in one eating. Make a lunch and supper affair they eat 240. Now Jagger has 30000 caffichis, how long will he take to clear the stock?Watoto watagoma after one week.Even cows refuse if you make it an everyday affair. Try somethibg else or do mixed farming ie divide it into 4 quaters the weka onion, skuma, spinach and cabbage. I think the nairobi population of 5m can absorb 30k cabbages. What if i drop 5k cabbages at Kangemi, another 5k at Umoja, 5k at dagoretti, 5k at mlolongo, 5k at Kitengela, and 5k at kasarani? I believe this can be done in one single day. @ Jagger, the reason why Coca Cola is a market leader is Distribution network. It's easy to say you will drop the cafishi in Umoja, Dago, Kayole, Dandora etc. the reality hits you hard when you have a truck full of cafishi and when you arrive at Kangemi, a mean looking guy asks you, who are u and what are you doing here? Your response may be I am a Kenyan with right to move and trade anywhere in this country. The guy will respond , we control this market. He will set the price and the terms. All the while the cafishi is cooking in the truck and the owner wants to offload and return for the next mzigo. Best thing is to look for a market, buy from those farmers selling at 2 bob and then sell as a middle man aka broker. Better still "get to know people" and if you get a tender to supply the military, you will be an overnight cafishi millionaire. All the best. Usife Moyo mwanaume in kujaribu. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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There's hope. Sell the kafishi kwa estates(but not markets). Uzia kina mama mboga and also retail. Set aside some chums for 'boys' in estates where they reign
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Gathige wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Bigchick wrote:Siringi wrote:Cant belief the caffichi stori has made it to wazua there are guys who believed it and made real cheddar. It is all about timing and knowing your seasons. My uncle told it to me. . .kikiumana you talk to the headmistresses of the boarding schools near you. They may not eat you as badly as the middlemen and cartels wa soko. Hata shule haisaidii. A girls school has 1200 students. 1 caffichi is eaten by 10 students so school needs 120 caffichis in one eating. Make a lunch and supper affair they eat 240. Now Jagger has 30000 caffichis, how long will he take to clear the stock?Watoto watagoma after one week.Even cows refuse if you make it an everyday affair. Try somethibg else or do mixed farming ie divide it into 4 quaters the weka onion, skuma, spinach and cabbage. I think the nairobi population of 5m can absorb 30k cabbages. What if i drop 5k cabbages at Kangemi, another 5k at Umoja, 5k at dagoretti, 5k at mlolongo, 5k at Kitengela, and 5k at kasarani? I believe this can be done in one single day. @ Jagger, the reason why Coca Cola is a market leader is Distribution network. It's easy to say you will drop the cafishi in Umoja, Dago, Kayole, Dandora etc. the reality hits you hard when you have a truck full of cafishi and when you arrive at Kangemi, a mean looking guy asks you, who are u and what are you doing here? Your response may be I am a Kenyan with right to move and trade anywhere in this country. The guy will respond , we control this market. He will set the price and the terms. All the while the cafishi is cooking in the truck and the owner wants to offload and return for the next mzigo. Best thing is to look for a market, buy from those farmers selling at 2 bob and then sell as a middle man aka broker. Better still "get to know people" and if you get a tender to supply the military, you will be an overnight cafishi millionaire. All the best. Usife Moyo mwanaume in kujaribu. @Gathige. Cant agree More. @Jaggernut. You must do your research, know your target market and get your network/distribution right. I am in the market and know for sure that Kila farm product ina wenyewe na story yake behind it. But you can overcome by researching Prior to Planting. That is a Must.Another Important factor to Consider is seasons. You need to know what will be in demand when. For example, time to plant tomato may be towards December as demand is high then etc, etc. You do not want to be harvesting when everyone else is - you want to have the Product ripe when it is in high demand. Id is down to demand and supply dynamics. Lastly, not every produce grows in any soil and any environment. In other works, you got a piece of land in Loitoktok and be sure that Onions will thrive there year round, but you cannot grow lettuce there, etc etc. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Wololo...just got back on air n this caught my eye .... mboga kwisha choma mimi sana...but one day I will try again. Instead of jumping into unknown waters, I wud first try by being a broker coz the risks as a broker r less. Once u study the market n its dynamics, u may decide whether its a good idea to go on and plant. As bigchick has put it,there comes a time hata .ng'ombe wanakucheka wakiona ukiwapea mboga....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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washiku wrote:Wololo...just got back on air n this caught my eye .... mboga kwisha choma mimi sana...but one day I will try again. Instead of jumping into unknown waters, I wud first try by being a broker coz the risks as a broker r less. Once u study the market n its dynamics, u may decide whether its a good idea to go on and plant. As bigchick has put it,there comes a time hata .ng'ombe wanakucheka wakiona ukiwapea mboga.... Welcome back @Washiku. Tunangoja Picha za Big Day "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/7/2010 Posts: 1,279 Location: nbi
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For every one farmer who plans and sells at the right time, Kieni kule Nyeri is full of gitongoro and mboga farmers who've lost it planting 2 acres of either and leasing others only to find the market ikodown kabisa because every farmer thought of doing the same. Luckily munge can eat the mboga, onions are used for manure. Fanya research or convince shules to buy your crop. In advance The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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dunkang wrote:Mastermind wrote:Bigchick wrote:Magigi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:There is always this joke that the easiest way to become a millionaire is to plant 1 million cabbages and sell each at 1 bob. Anyway, on a serious note, 1 acre can have 30,000 cabbages and with the price of one cabbage currently at 80bob in Nairobi, it means one can make Ksh 2,400,000 in just 3 months. I am seriously looking for 1 acre of land to lease within 100km of Nairobi to try and actualize this.  Got 5 acres lying idle in mayakos (midway mayakos town and makutano...2.5 km off the main road...Don't know what to do with it!!! But no water nearby...Uko na roho ya borehole? Ukifanya borehole jaribu somethingelse.Kama matunda melons, maembe , paipai nakathalika. Sijasiskia cabbage ya kutoka Mayakos. ... Ama sukuma Cabbages seem to do well in cooler places, Machakos si kuna joto sana? True cabbages like cold weather otherwise they will open up and become sukumawiki Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Bigchick wrote:Siringi wrote:Cant belief the caffichi stori has made it to wazua there are guys who believed it and made real cheddar. It is all about timing and knowing your seasons. My uncle told it to me. . .kikiumana you talk to the headmistresses of the boarding schools near you. They may not eat you as badly as the middlemen and cartels wa soko. Hata shule haisaidii. A girls school has 1200 students. 1 caffichi is eaten by 10 students so school needs 120 caffichis in one eating. Make a lunch and supper affair they eat 240. Now Jagger has 30000 caffichis, how long will he take to clear the stock? Watoto watagoma after one week.Even cows refuse if you make it an everyday affair. Try somethibg else or do mixed farming ie divide it into 4 quaters the weka onion, skuma, spinach and cabbage. Portfolio: Sold
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