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Kshs 5 trn mineral discovery...no celebration!!!NKT!!!
youcan'tstopusnow
#31 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 5:26:47 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
deadpoet wrote:
Woe unto Kenya, rare earth metals are deemed a US 'national security' interest:

http://americansecurityp...-earth-metals-in-china/

The evil eye is upon us!


China produces a different type

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China produces the vast majority of two particularly important rares, dysprosium (99 percent) and neodymium (95 percent). The motor of a Prius requires about 3 pounds of the latter. While other countries, including the U.S., have significant amounts of these, China’s low-cost labor and lax environmental restrictions has afforded it a big advantage in this mining-intensive industry.

http://www.forbes.com/si...tranglehold-on-america/

Ours is niobium.

Its mined in Canada and Brazil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niobium


Mrima Hill is a 'Niobium and Rare Earth Project'. Thus, those other elements are also present.
But I see no reason to worry about it being a US National Security Interest.
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mwekez@ji
#32 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:12:10 PM
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Government targets higher royalties from mining sector

The government says it will soon push for a larger public share of the mineral wealth. Officials on Monday said the government will seek nearly 20 per cent of the cash made by big miners, mostly foreigners, through higher royalties and a new proposal to secure government stake in mining companies.

The government is seeking to increase the royalty rates, currently ranging between three per cent and five per cent, depending on the mineral’s worth in line with the proposed new mining law. The Mining Bill 2013 has left the royalty rates open to government policy although it demands a larger public share of the wealth.

“The royalties are going to be as high as between three per cent and 10 per cent,” said Richard Ekai Titus, the principal secretary for Mining. Currently setting of the rates is subject to investment agreements with the mining firms where other issues such as concession agreements and tax are agreed.

This means precious minerals fetching premium prices in global markets may attract higher royalty compared to industrial minerals such as fluorspar and gypsum that are largely used locally
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:12:31 PM
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murchr wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@murchr..the ideal negotiation is whereby the tax, royalties, license fees, infrastructure fees or any other considerations paid by the foreign company to Kenya amount to at least 51%.


I havent seen the agreement and the local dailies dont know what the agreements are anyway, they pick that which they can gasp and run with it.

This company may take decades before it recoups its investments. What i know is in most agreements what the govt get increases with time as the mining company gets back its money.

Thats why am insisting on a "NOCK kind of company" that deals with minerals, that bids for licenses even in the neighboring countries. Its time to build capacity not to scare investors. Out of the 49% that the company will be left with how much will be eaten up by operations and how long will it take for the shareholder to recoup his investment?



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The government says it will soon push for a larger public share of the mineral wealth. Officials on Monday said the government will seek nearly 20 per cent of the cash made by big miners, mostly foreigners, through higher royalties and a new proposal to secure government stake in mining companies.




http://www.businessdaily.../-/oqc39jz/-/index.html


20% is good. 51% even better for Kenyans.
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murchr
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2013 3:50:14 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
murchr wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@murchr..the ideal negotiation is whereby the tax, royalties, license fees, infrastructure fees or any other considerations paid by the foreign company to Kenya amount to at least 51%.


I havent seen the agreement and the local dailies dont know what the agreements are anyway, they pick that which they can gasp and run with it.

This company may take decades before it recoups its investments. What i know is in most agreements what the govt get increases with time as the mining company gets back its money.

Thats why am insisting on a "NOCK kind of company" that deals with minerals, that bids for licenses even in the neighboring countries. Its time to build capacity not to scare investors. Out of the 49% that the company will be left with how much will be eaten up by operations and how long will it take for the shareholder to recoup his investment?



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The government says it will soon push for a larger public share of the mineral wealth. Officials on Monday said the government will seek nearly 20 per cent of the cash made by big miners, mostly foreigners, through higher royalties and a new proposal to secure government stake in mining companies.




http://www.businessdaily.../-/oqc39jz/-/index.html


20% is good. 51% even better for Kenyans.


@architect I saw this article and, was to come back to read and comment about it on the comments section but clearly i had other things that were more pressing.

Here is a report by PWC on taxation..I havent seen any royalty that is over 15% depending on what is being mined http://www.pwc.com/gx/en...ther-mining_taxes.jhtml

What Australia takes as royalties http://www.bloomberg.com...-rare-earth-mining.html

If Kenya can be a pioneer in getting 20% on royalties then well and good.

Just bumped into this article on the Sub-Standard which is also a good read. http://www.standardmedia...ining-deal-is-way-to-go
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No one ever mentioned in China’s strategy for Rare Earths that it would be a supply dominated by China AND Kenya. The ‘Kenya’ part wasn’t in the global plan.

Not that anyone has really focussed on that jigsaw puzzle as we gained lots of lovely grants and friendship from China, a free hospital, a beautiful Thika superhighway
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murchr
#35 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2013 10:45:01 PM
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Kwale, Kenya: The value of the rare earth minerals recently discovered in Kwale County could be worth more than the estimated Sh51.2 trillion, an official has said.

Cortec Mining Kenya managing director David Anderson says the price of niobium is set to rise following a spike in global demand.

Source
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Much Know
#36 Posted : Monday, August 05, 2013 2:10:35 PM
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Balala revokes 31 mining lincenses

Does this include the famous oil?
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youcan'tstopusnow
#37 Posted : Monday, August 05, 2013 2:31:50 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Balala revokes 31 mining lincenses

Does this include the famous oil?


Oil is not under his docket.

A lot of potential for gold in the Western/Lake Victoria region. If we get the right companies holding licenses and not these briefcase entities, we'll move faster na mambo itakuwa mazuri...
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maka
#38 Posted : Monday, August 05, 2013 4:23:49 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Balala revokes 31 mining lincenses

Does this include the famous oil?


Oil is not under his docket.

A lot of potential for gold in the Western/Lake Victoria region. If we get the right companies holding licenses and not these briefcase entities, we'll move faster na mambo itakuwa mazuri...


Another case....on Wednesday GO is representing some canadian firm on this....
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murchr
#39 Posted : Monday, August 05, 2013 6:08:37 PM
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maka wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Balala revokes 31 mining lincenses

Does this include the famous oil?


Oil is not under his docket.

A lot of potential for gold in the Western/Lake Victoria region. If we get the right companies holding licenses and not these briefcase entities, we'll move faster na mambo itakuwa mazuri...


Another case....on Wednesday GO is representing some canadian firm on this....


What is GO?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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maka
#40 Posted : Monday, August 05, 2013 6:55:53 PM
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murchr wrote:
maka wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Balala revokes 31 mining lincenses

Does this include the famous oil?


Oil is not under his docket.

A lot of potential for gold in the Western/Lake Victoria region. If we get the right companies holding licenses and not these briefcase entities, we'll move faster na mambo itakuwa mazuri...


Another case....on Wednesday GO is representing some canadian firm on this....


What is GO?


who is G.O = George Oraro
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