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Shak
#61 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 9:58:46 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Shak wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
most wazuans are young. Most cant recall when MO1 said clearly there was a "msaliti" who was being groomed by foreign powers to take power. RAO was promptly pardoned to give evidence against the "msaliti"


i'm lost. Njonjo was the msaliti? Why wasn't he detained?

Yes and he was pardoned after being tamed.

That explains his support for OAR in 2007. I guess CN eventually forgave him for giving evidence implicating him
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mkonomtupu
#62 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:03:07 PM
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mawinder wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
most wazuans are young. Most cant recall when MO1 said clearly there was a "msaliti" who was being groomed by foreign powers to take power. RAO was promptly pardoned to give evidence against the "msaliti"


And some of them are elders while you are a member.Anyway some of them were not yet born and the ones who were alive were too young to analyse the goings on.


i should try come here more often. Actually the coup was known and when MO1 was briefed about it and urged to arrest the plotters he remarked "sasa wanataka kuchukua serikali wapeleke wapi?"

History as always is written by the victors
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mawinder
#63 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:05:18 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
most wazuans are young. Most cant recall when MO1 said clearly there was a "msaliti" who was being groomed by foreign powers to take power. RAO was promptly pardoned to give evidence against the "msaliti"


I missed the gist of your thread due to sleep.You are wrong.RAO was released from detention in 1988 after the Miller commission had been disbanded.He was rearrested the same year and released in 1991.He has suffered and for that period NEVER call him a traitor.In fact I respect Muite and him for that while Lee Muthoga is the traitor.
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murchr
#64 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:14:18 PM
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mawinder wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
most wazuans are young. Most cant recall when MO1 said clearly there was a "msaliti" who was being groomed by foreign powers to take power. RAO was promptly pardoned to give evidence against the "msaliti"


I missed the gist of your thread due to sleep.You are wrong.RAO was released from detention in 1988 after the Miller commission had been disbanded.He was rearrested the same year and released in 1991.He has suffered and for that period NEVER call him a traitor.In fact I respect Muite and him for that while Lee Muthoga is the traitor.


Was he arrested for nothing? & @mkonotupu the question that Mo1 asked Mulinge was, "mnataka kuniua na mmepindua serikali?"
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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McReggae
#65 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:17:41 PM
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I have to sleep...too such tonight but guys be informed.....the coup was never what you think......it was never the Odinga' vs MO1's....nope some arrangements went wrong.....meanwhile with the little knowledge you can continue calling for the belated annihilation of the Odinga's.

@Mawinder......my respect for you went up a 100 fold.....you got information.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rankaz13
#66 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:41:04 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Law 15
Crush your Enemy Totally
All great leaders since
Moses have known that a
feared enemy must be
crushed completely.
(Sometimes they have
learned this the hard way.)
If one ember is left alight,
no matter how dimly it
smolders, a fire will
eventually break out. More
is lost through stopping
halfway than through total
annihilation: The enemy will
recover, and will seek
revenge. Crush him, not
only in body but in spirit.

Moi's blunder.


One guy who probably rues not doing this is Bw. Mbeki down south.
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Lolest!
#67 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:45:43 PM
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McReggae wrote:
I have to sleep...too such tonight but guys be informed.....the coup was never what you think......it was never the Odinga' vs MO1's....nope some arrangements went wrong.....meanwhile with the little knowledge you can continue calling for the belated annihilation of the Odinga's.

@Mawinder......my respect for you went up a 100 fold.....you got information.

Goodnight, sleep tight. Hope kesho you will be less gum with info. Some things are not in books. But thank God things went wrong for the plotters.
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Lolest!
#68 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:51:36 PM
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mawinder wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
most wazuans are young. Most cant recall when MO1 said clearly there was a "msaliti" who was being groomed by foreign powers to take power. RAO was promptly pardoned to give evidence against the "msaliti"


I missed the gist of your thread due to sleep.You are wrong.RAO was released from detention in 1988 after the Miller commission had been disbanded.He was rearrested the same year and released in 1991.He has suffered and for that period NEVER call him a traitor.In fact I respect Muite and him for that while Lee Muthoga is the traitor.

no wonder you are being respected for bowing to him. He suffered yes but was he innocent? He escaped the hangman to become the king after his dad's death. And he was out in 1990
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McReggae
#69 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:57:39 PM
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@Lolest......good policing but this calls for more research on your side huh?......the coup has always been used to maintain the status quo...but the facts all the time get missed out.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Lolest!
#70 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:04:13 PM
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McReggae wrote:
@Lolest......good policing but this calls for more research on your side huh?......the coup has always been used to maintain the status quo...but the facts all the time get missed out.

post a bit vague. Nilidhani ulilala? Nafanya research hapa. But the fellows who pride themselves in having the info would rather hoard it and lord over us 'text book historians'. I wonder who these other hoarding types are classiifed as. Maybe 'village bar historians'
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