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McReggae		#21 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:03:15 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		McReggae wrote: Impunity wrote: McReggae wrote: murchr wrote: McReggae wrote: Lolest! wrote: McReggae wrote: Sometimes we get even late getting to know the history of our country!!! Is RAO innocent? Or what do you know that we need to know? Or do you know why Moi spared the Odingas? Share please... The idea was shared equally between the Luo and the Kikuyu supremos......it's the leadership of the coup that was a problem.....very strong in spirit but somehow clueless heads. The Kikuyus tried to replace Mo1 b4 the old man died but ikakataa..the Luo tried to take by force. Hio pia ikakataa...@Lolest on your comment above, its possible there was some outside intervention too. The real sponsors of the coup developed cold feet when it became apparent that the immediate benefactors would not be from their own......people have rarely wanted to get the real details of this coup. Luoz fight in the broad daylight...they are known to be fearless; hiyo kabila ingine are the types that fights by kujifichiwo...they couldn't dare lead from the front and instead lead from the comfort of the slopes while facing the tall mountain! NKT!!!!!!!! It's odd people don't understand the real facts on this coup.......the more reason they are confused understanding MO1's actions.....the teacher knows the whole truth behind the coup hence his actions/inactions. Did @Lolest read this response before his last response? I doubt. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Lolest!		#22 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:06:20 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		mcrege, i have never read of this angle that you're bringing out. I have read the story from various sources and not once did it come out. Not even in Raila's biography. Though there is one account which soldiers are said to contemplate a kefake presidency!
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McReggae		#23 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:23:12 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		Lolest! wrote: mcrege, i have never read of this angle that you're bringing out. I have read the story from various sources and not once did it come out. Not even in Raila's biography. Though there is one account which soldiers are said to contemplate a kefake presidency! Bro it's a story of different demographics pursuing stuff differently.....to answer you MO1 had all the details....his actions were based on the facts that he had. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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mawinder		#24 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:36:34 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029		McReggae wrote: Lolest! wrote: mcrege, i have never read of this angle that you're bringing out. I have read the story from various sources and not once did it come out. Not even in Raila's biography. Though there is one account which soldiers are said to contemplate a kefake presidency! Bro it's a story of different demographics pursuing stuff differently.....to answer you MO1 had all the details....his actions were based on the facts that he had. Ditto.Some peopple do not understand that Moi wanted to get rid of people like Charles and he was privy to the whole plot.
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Lolest!		#25 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:43:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		McReggae wrote: Lolest! wrote: mcrege, i have never read of this angle that you're bringing out. I have read the story from various sources and not once did it come out. Not even in Raila's biography. Though there is one account which soldiers are said to contemplate a kefake presidency! Bro it's a story of different demographics pursuing stuff differently.....to answer you MO1 had all the details....his actions were based on the facts that he had. interesting! For all the accounts I've read are from the same demographic. I see an opportunity here...
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Jus Blazin		#26 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:45:56 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966		Kama mna details, mtoe hapa. Anyone can claim they know something others don't, as long as they don't state what they claim to know. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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guru267		#27 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:50:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		The Luo were the second biggest tribe at the time and Oginga was their Jomo! There is no way MO1 would have hang RAO while Oginga still drew breath and live to brag about it! And why hang RAO who was merely following daddy's orders?? Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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simonkabz		#28 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:53:15 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon		Jus Blazin wrote: Kama mna details, mtoe hapa. Anyone can claim they know something others don't, as long as they don't state what they claim to know. Exactly. There is this totological habit of "yaani u guys don't know? " kumbe ni hewa moto tupu! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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McReggae		#29 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:57:47 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi		mawinder wrote: McReggae wrote: Lolest! wrote: mcrege, i have never read of this angle that you're bringing out. I have read the story from various sources and not once did it come out. Not even in Raila's biography. Though there is one account which soldiers are said to contemplate a kefake presidency! Bro it's a story of different demographics pursuing stuff differently.....to answer you MO1 had all the details....his actions were based on the facts that he had. Ditto.Some peopple do not understand that Moi wanted to get rid of people like Charles and he was privy to the whole plot. Thank you @Mwainder. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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tycho		#30 Posted : Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:58:06 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		Lolest! wrote: Shak wrote: tycho wrote: Lolest! wrote: Was it a miscalculation on the part of Moi by shielding Raila from the gallows despite there being a strong case for his hanging? The more I read about the coup, the more puzzled I get about Moi. Could it be he had deep respect for Jaramogi? Could it be he viewed the Odingas as possible future allies(which they became in the next decade)? Or was it a case of avoiding to touch one community's royal family? I find Moi a Godly Man, and it's highly probable that he worked for the greater good of our nation state, and that in this case he found balance in the presence of the Odingas. For, had he killed Raila, then enemy forces would be concentrated on him, and government fall on unsteady hands. I'm also puzzled that he spared Matiba's life. Or was he as good as dead when they released him from detention? You vannot compare the two. Moi would have beeen justified to hang both Odinga the father and Odinga the son. What happpened to matiba was wrong The governor is always faced with the task of balancing the forces around him, and at all times is constrained by the sacred ideas that animate the body politic. King David couldn't build the temple, for his hands were bloodied. Yet a Governors' greatest achievement is the temple. It is the Constraint.
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