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Is UK's Government Blind and Deaf?
maka
#131 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:23:31 PM
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washiku wrote:
Yesterday I went to visit a doctor friend of mine at Mbagathi Hospital. With the state of affairs that I saw, we don't need to spend even a single coin on statutes. That money can fix the falling doors, broken wheel chairs, blocked toilets, torn hospital clothes n such other issues. This country needs serious priorities at the topmost seat on the land.


Most people wont understand because they have never visited such a facility...
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#132 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:36:37 PM
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Impunity wrote:
xyzee wrote:
DP jet acquired following executive order.


rINK PLEASE!
Sad


This is what you meant...

An officer from the Auditor General's office Dennis Kariuki today told the Parliamentary Committee on Finance that the airplane that Ruto took on a joy ride was hired based on an executive order by Uhuru Kenyatta. He further confirmed that documents relating to the transaction have gone missing...
And the order cannot be traced,two voucher's are missing,the registrar of companies has refused to give the real owner's of the company and the directors have refused to talk to them.
possunt quia posse videntur
newfarer
#133 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:41:55 PM
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guru267 wrote:
@murchr and co.. it only takes 1.5million people taking to the streets to completely destabilize Kenya!

6million people voted against Uhuruto on march 4th and in this game its all about perception...

If Railonzo can convince 1 out of 3 voters that we can no longer live with Jubilee we will have a serious problem on our hands!

Mind you that Kenyans are more revolutionary than most other Africans and that Egypt's Morsi won with a similar margin to Uhuruto!

All I'm saying is Jubilee must stop being complacent and open their eyes!

this is quite true and I'm afraid .
punda amecheka
maka
#134 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:42:10 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
xyzee wrote:
DP jet acquired following executive order.


rINK PLEASE!
Sad


This is what you meant...

An officer from the Auditor General's office Dennis Kariuki today told the Parliamentary Committee on Finance that the airplane that Ruto took on a joy ride was hired based on an executive order by Uhuru Kenyatta. He further confirmed that documents relating to the transaction have gone missing...
And the order cannot be traced,two voucher's are missing,the registrar of companies has refused to give the real owner's of the company and the directors have refused to talk to them.
possunt quia posse videntur
Rollout
#135 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:46:10 PM
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Over 51% of Kenyans are dumb, I mean downright stupid and these 51+% cut across the entire population regardless of Education level, Party affiliation,and even tribal origin.

The reason why some of us here find it hard to understand why people would defend certain action is because we're just out of touch with average Kenyan.
InnovateGuy
#136 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:59:33 PM
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Posts: 1,110
Rollout wrote:
Over 51% of Kenyans are dumb, I mean downright stupid and these 51+% cut across the entire population regardless of Education level, Party affiliation,and even tribal origin.

The reason why some of us here find it hard to understand why people would defend certain action is because we're just out of touch with average Kenyan.


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

This was uncalled for Mr. "Smart". There are civil ways of putting your point across without insulting other people.

I had to check your rank again. Thank God you are a 'user.'
Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
InnovateGuy
#137 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:03:05 PM
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maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
xyzee wrote:
DP jet acquired following executive order.


rINK PLEASE!
Sad


This is what you meant...

An officer from the Auditor General's office Dennis Kariuki today told the Parliamentary Committee on Finance that the airplane that Ruto took on a joy ride was hired based on an executive order by Uhuru Kenyatta. He further confirmed that documents relating to the transaction have gone missing...
And the order cannot be traced,two voucher's are missing,the registrar of companies has refused to give the real owner's of the company and the directors have refused to talk to them.


Tells you that DN was right about the 100 M figure. UK needs to get his act right.

Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
Jus Blazin
#138 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:04:45 PM
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samsa wrote:
jguru wrote:
newfarer wrote:

a dialysis machine costs 102 million. patients wait for months to get treatment at Kenyatta hospital because the obsolete machines available are always down.do you see anything to celebrate when these fellow Kenyans are suffering?
boost supermarket butcheries with my tax.ABK.

and the small Matter of IDPs most of who voted for JUBILEE in the hope that they can return to their shambas or get compensation? na hii baridi yote in camps?


Slight correction.

A Fresenius, Braun, Baxter or Nikisso dialysis machine costs approximately USD 35000 i.e. 3 million.

Consumables, water, electricity and nursing costs an average of Ksh4500 per dialysis session per patient.

Some kidney patients at KNH have taken KNH to court over provision of dialysis services at KNH.

It's a very sad situation what these patients go through.

Sad


When did these machines break down? Why have they never been addressed? Why remind us of it now?
Why cant we hold those who never attended it accountable? has it been brought to the government and the same government returned it 'unpaid'?

I was going to ask the same. It's the responsibility of the accounting officer (KNH CEO) to seek funding from the government. We may berate government's expenditure, rightfully so, but even the bible says ask and it will be given unto you, seek and you'll find, knock and the door will be open unto you. We should put the CEO to task about that.

Now, I'm not in support of the extravagant spending. It's too much. As in very much. But if it happens, lets look at it from another angle. Government spends sh2.5B to do the celebrations. Companies will be paid and will definitely have made profits. That profit will be taxed. Anything they buy will already be taxed. Through that, the government will recoup some of the moneys paid out, making the net expense lower than the sh2.5B. Just saying.
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Rollout
#139 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:18:22 PM
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Joined: 4/26/2011
Posts: 759
InnovateGuy wrote:
Rollout wrote:
Over 51% of Kenyans are dumb, I mean downright stupid and these 51+% cut across the entire population regardless of Education level, Party affiliation,and even tribal origin.

The reason why some of us here find it hard to understand why people would defend certain action is because we're just out of touch with average Kenyan.


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

This was uncalled for Mr. "Smart". There are civil ways of putting your point across without insulting other people.

I had to check your rank again. Thank God you are a 'user.'


How can you call someone stupid in a nice way? give me the right word and I will use it
newfarer
#140 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:24:00 PM
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Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
Jus Blazin wrote:
samsa wrote:
jguru wrote:
newfarer wrote:

a dialysis machine costs 102 million. patients wait for months to get treatment at Kenyatta hospital because the obsolete machines available are always down.do you see anything to celebrate when these fellow Kenyans are suffering?
boost supermarket butcheries with my tax.ABK.

and the small Matter of IDPs most of who voted for JUBILEE in the hope that they can return to their shambas or get compensation? na hii baridi yote in camps?


Slight correction.

A Fresenius, Braun, Baxter or Nikisso dialysis machine costs approximately USD 35000 i.e. 3 million.

Consumables, water, electricity and nursing costs an average of Ksh4500 per dialysis session per patient.

Some kidney patients at KNH have taken KNH to court over provision of dialysis services at KNH.

It's a very sad situation what these patients go through.

Sad


When did these machines break down? Why have they never been addressed? Why remind us of it now?
Why cant we hold those who never attended it accountable? has it been brought to the government and the same government returned it 'unpaid'?

I was going to ask the same. It's the responsibility of the accounting officer (KNH CEO) to seek funding from the government. We may berate government's expenditure, rightfully so, but even the bible says ask and it will be given unto you, seek and you'll find, knock and the door will be open unto you. We should put the CEO to task about that.

Now, I'm not in support of the extravagant spending. It's too much. As in very much. But if it happens, lets look at it from another angle. Government spends sh2.5B to do the celebrations. Companies will be paid and will definitely have made profits. That profit will be taxed. Anything they buy will already be taxed. Through that, the government will recoup some of the moneys paid out, making the net expense lower than the sh2.5B. Just saying.

isn't there a better way of spending the same amount to achieve the same or even better results?
how about psychological impact of using such amounts to celebrate?
the govt will be seen a person who throws a party at a funeral. sio?
punda amecheka
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