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Kaigangio
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Monday, July 22, 2013 9:00:18 PM
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According to todays Daily Nation newspaper a kshs 5 Trillion ($62.4 billion) niobium mineral (a rare mineral) deposits have been discovered in Mrima Hills in Kwale County...
Now, according to the government and Cortec Kenya Mining (the mining company) agreements, the revenue from the mining and sales of these rare deposits will be shared between the National Government, the County Government and the mining company... so far so good...
According to the agreement, the government will receive 3% royalties from the project and 5% from the mining activities, meaning the government will earn kshs 400 billion out of the kshs 5 trillion...if I am right, this is a blood sucking scenario!!!NKT!!!^*$#*#**!!!!!!!!
Further, our good constitution says that the resource shall be divided as follows...80% (kshs 320 billion) will go to the National government, 15% (kshs 60 billion) will go to the county government and 5% (kshs 20 billion) will go to the local community...
When I look at the a resource worth kshs 5 trillion and we will only receive 8% of the total resource value ain't this thuggery or slavery defined in modern terms or rape of our natural resources????
Only the KRA and may be the CBK fellows will be happy to collect the proceeds that will help in closing the widening gaps in their collection targets!!Correct me if i am wrong please...
Nothing to celebrate here!!!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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maka
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Monday, July 22, 2013 10:16:59 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
According to todays Daily Nation newspaper a kshs 5 Trillion ($62.4 billion) niobium mineral (a rare mineral) deposits have been discovered in Mrima Hills in Kwale County...
Now, according to the government and Cortec Kenya Mining (the mining company) agreements, the revenue from the mining and sales of these rare deposits will be shared between the National Government, the County Government and the mining company... so far so good...
According to the agreement, the government will receive 3% royalties from the project and 5% from the mining activities, meaning the government will earn kshs 400 billion out of the kshs 5 trillion...if I am right, this is a blood sucking scenario!!!NKT!!!^*$#*#**!!!!!!!!
Further, our good constitution says that the resource shall be divided as follows...80% (kshs 320 billion) will go to the National government, 15% (kshs 60 billion) will go to the county government and 5% (kshs 20 billion) will go to the local community...
When I look at the a resource worth kshs 5 trillion and we will only receive 8% of the total resource value ain't this thuggery or slavery defined in modern terms or rape of our natural resources????
Only the KRA and may be the CBK fellows will be happy to collect the proceeds that will help in closing the widening gaps in their collection targets!!Correct me if i am wrong please...
Nothing to celebrate here!!!
This is Kenya for you...
possunt quia posse videntur
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Liv
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Monday, July 22, 2013 10:46:32 PM
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The mining company will still pay 30% of their profit as income tax.
Any monies paid by this company to their group as consultancy and other fees will still attract 20% management / consultancy fees withholding tax.
However the government should ensure there is a limit to the number of expatriates brought to Kenya by such companies. In fact we should have a law like Nigeria where for every expatriate working in Kenya, a Kenyan should be sent out to another country as an expatriate by the employing company.
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guru267
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:22:32 AM
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Lets not forget the 10% dividend tax KRA will be raking in!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Cde Monomotapa
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:39:55 AM
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Reportedly, GoK will also have a 10% free-carry shareholding on behalf of the people of Kenya. Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF)
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youcan'tstopusnow
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Reportedly, GoK will also have a 10% free-carry shareholding on behalf of the people of Kenya. Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF)
http://mobile.bloomberg....in-mining-projects.html
#Foresight
Kenya also envisages becoming a minerals-trading and processing hub, Balala said.
“My plan is to have a metal and minerals exchange, to have a gold refinery and exchange in Kenya and also to be a value-addition center for gemstones, iron ore, manganese and the heavy metals,” he said.
The proposed new law calls for the creation of a Mineral Sovereign Fund into which a quarter of mining royalties received by the government will be held for future investment, Balala said.
The state is proposing that three- quarters of total royalties go to the national government, 20 percent to county administrations and 5 percent to local communities, he said.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Kaigangio
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:13:33 AM
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Liv wrote:
The mining company will still pay 30% of their profit as income tax.
Any monies paid by this company to their group as consultancy and other fees will still attract 20% management / consultancy fees withholding tax.
However the government should ensure there is a limit to the number of expatriates brought to Kenya by such companies. In fact we should have a law like Nigeria where for every expatriate working in Kenya, a Kenyan should be sent out to another country as an expatriate by the employing company.
Quite true, but then don't forget this:
1. machinery capital cost
2. beneficiation costs
3. staff salaries
4. further explorations
Items 1,2 and 4 presents some delicious loopholes which can easily be exploited by the mining company to astronomically inflate the cost of liabilities...
These loopholes may be very difficult to seal...exempli gratia, the company might wish to extract the ore here (in Kenya), but the beneficiation is done elsewhere (abroad)...this is where we lose badly!!! A good example of our product is coffee and tea. How much does our farmer get compared to how much the end product costs???
The declared profit may end up being so small...a fraction of the value of the find...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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majimaji
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:15:00 AM
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Key thing: how to ensure the quantities mined are correct and the value given is true.
The other issue: who came up with the KES 5 trillion figure? It may be KES 8 trillion.
All in all, the Govt should be very careful we don't become like Zambia where there is nothing to show for their copper.
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Kaigangio
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:28:35 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Reportedly, GoK will also have a 10% free-carry shareholding on behalf of the people of Kenya. Sovereign Wealth Fund (SWF)
Nothing to be happy about here, ati 10%...Botswana have been thoroughly screwed by De Beers (Openhemier and company) through Debswana where the GOB owns I think 10-15% shareholding...GOB knows very little of what is happening in Orapa, Letlakane and Jwaneng diamond mines...Marketing has always been done by De Beers and I think the GOB knows very little on how much the resource is fetching in the international market...The Botswana government have been crying all along on the near zero return on their diamonds...
I expect almost the same situation here...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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poundfoolish
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:52:31 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
According to todays Daily Nation newspaper a kshs 5 Trillion ($62.4 billion) niobium mineral (a rare mineral) deposits have been discovered in Mrima Hills in Kwale County...
Now, according to the government and Cortec Kenya Mining (the mining company) agreements, the revenue from the mining and sales of these rare deposits will be shared between the National Government, the County Government and the mining company... so far so good...
According to the agreement, the government will receive 3% royalties from the project and 5% from the mining activities, meaning the government will earn kshs 400 billion out of the kshs 5 trillion...if I am right, this is a blood sucking scenario!!!NKT!!!^*$#*#**!!!!!!!!
Further, our good constitution says that the resource shall be divided as follows...80% (kshs 320 billion) will go to the National government, 15% (kshs 60 billion) will go to the county government and 5% (kshs 20 billion) will go to the local community...
When I look at the a resource worth kshs 5 trillion and we will only receive 8% of the total resource value ain't this thuggery or slavery defined in modern terms or rape of our natural resources????
Only the KRA and may be the CBK fellows will be happy to collect the proceeds that will help in closing the widening gaps in their collection targets!!Correct me if i am wrong please...
Nothing to celebrate here!!!
dont worry.. the 400billion is for the 40 million Kenyans.. the remaining trillions will be shared by Individuals in GoK, GoK middlemen and the mining companies.. at some point expect some rebels tired of the 20B to the local community, getting into the fray for a larger share...
Welcome to the trickle down effect capitalism..
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