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kysse
#1 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:37:16 PM
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Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



Impunity
#2 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:25:41 PM
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kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



Edited due to public misunderstanding!
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McReggae
#3 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:44:36 PM
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Impunity wrote:
kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



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Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Edited!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#4 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:03:36 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



The moment I saw you at @mbuzi 7 I knew all was not well...ni hayo tu.
SAD.
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Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


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Mukiri
#5 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:19:07 PM
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Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



The moment I saw you at @mbuzi 7 I knew all was not well...ni hayo tu.
SAD.
Sad Sad Sad


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Pray Pray Pray Pray

Mberrow the mbeot

Proverbs 19:21
King G
#6 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:41:06 PM
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@Impunity, that comment is not fair to our senior wazua lady. Sad Sad Sad
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McReggae
#7 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:42:16 PM
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King G wrote:
@Impunity, that comment is not fair to our senior wazua lady. Sad Sad Sad


It's in very bad taste and should be withdrawn!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Magigi
#8 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:50:00 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



The moment I saw you at @mbuzi 7 I knew all was not well...ni hayo tu.
SAD.
Sad Sad Sad


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Pray Pray Pray Pray

Mberrow the mbeot

The @impunity I saw and what he scribbles here are totally incompatible
Magigi
#9 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:52:23 PM
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kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.




Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...you follow your popoo to do a research on it...
Muheani
#10 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:53:54 PM
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kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



Inasaidia kuongeza madini ya iron na folic acid ambayo hutumika sana katika kutengeneza damu, hutumika katika hali ya upungufu wa damu mwilini.Haswa kwa akina mama ambao ni wajawazito ama wakiwa katika hedhi

(that i heard, am no Doc)
danas10
#11 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:59:24 PM
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Impunity wrote:
kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.



The moment I saw you at @mbuzi 7 I knew all was not well...ni hayo tu.
SAD.
Sad Sad Sad


..and you wonder why mbuzi's are full of plugs!!! NKT!!!

@essyk, siwes-saidia lakini...tungoje kina guru et al smile
butterflyke
#12 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:13:54 PM
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@impunity, umeongea mbaya. that was in very bad taste.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
Impunity
#13 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:57:06 PM
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All,
I have been misunderstood, the underlining humor seems to have been missed most of you.
I WITHDRAW.

@lady admin to edit and remove all my quoted comments!
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Rankaz13
#14 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:15:48 PM
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kysse wrote:
Honourable medics from guru,rankaz kamundu to manundu.

I went for a thorough blood test and mine turned out 7.
The doc didn't go into deep details,but gave me a 'like seriously? look,leaving me to ask him if I should book space kwa OB.
The nurse pricked my finger severally but only a dot came out.Had to really squeeeze it instead of having to prick all my fingers for blood.
He gave me Ranferon,which I turned down cz it tastes like real iron and makes one downloads dark,-why ?
Gave me Saferon instead.
What does Saferon do?

And what's normal blood level for an average adult female cz my energy levels are high.





@kysse, kwanza pole zangu. I presume you're a socket smile , right? A Hb level of 7 is recipe for disaster my dear especially for a female (what with the usual biological processes, you know what I mean smile ) and you're lucky your doc didn't admit you. Seriously, Hb of 7 and below us considered anemia and is recipe for admission and subsequent blood transfusion.

According to some research done locally, a significant no. of our female sisters/mothers/significant others are walking around in an anemic or pre-anemic state unknowingly. So it is a good thing you actually took the initiative to have the test done.

Without dwelling too much on the signs to look out for, most common ones include general lethargy and a feeling of 'tiredness' on exertion, so that one will constantly feel breathless and tired after a shirt flight of stairs (going up, not downsmile ), after a brisk walk or light jogging. For a child experiencing this, they may tend to withdraw from playtime which doesn't augur well for their normal bone, muscle as well as social skills development. Obviously, we all are aware that it is Hb that carries the oxygen in blood required to oxygenate our tissues, so kama Hb haitoshi basi hata oxygen owes tosha. If untreated over a long period if time, then chronic anemia may eventually lead to cardiac ailment.

There are a variety of causes of anemia which I'll not necessarily dwell on. In an otherwise healthy individual, most common causes may be due to poor diet as well as bleeding (e.g after an injury/accident, or a bleeding gastric/duodenal ulcer) as well as biological (sockets), chronic alcoholism mainly because it is associated with poor nutrition, and pregnancy (due to increased demands).

Having established that what you're suffering from is iron-deficiency anemia, this explains the logic behind your doctor prescribing iron supplements of which ranferon and saferon are just but some of the brands in the market. Usually the problem with iron is that it is quite unpalatable, hence the metallic taste you've do aptly described. To improve in this, several formulations exist in the market to both mask the taste as well as improve absorption once ingested. If you're going to buy iron supplements, look for those that have ferrous fumarate or some 'carbonyl-iron' molecule as they have better palatability and yield more iron. For this reason, if you can't stomach whatever you were given, I'd advise you to go for Zeefee syrup, it's packaged in a red/white box with a bottle shaped 'kama ya mzinga'. A 200ml bottle should cost in the region of 320-360 bob and will give you faster results than some of the competing brands. Take 10mls thrice daily.

It's important to note that citric acid improves iron absorption, hence if you have access to your citrus fruits, the better. There are some other formulations that contain ferrous citrate for that very reason. Also note that most of these formulations, in addition to the ferrous component, may also contain folate/folic acid as well as vitamin B12/cyanocobalamin. Reason is all these molecules are synergistic in so far as hemoglobin synthesis is concerned so they therefore are beneficial. By the time your body begins to exhibit iron deficiency, chances are very high that there are varying levels of deficiency if the other two too.

That said, supplements are not for the long term. We need to look at your diet for that purpose. Need I emphasize on the iron-rich foods? Off the too of my head, liver and kidney (hizi kama hujui kupika hata afadhali uitishe recipe, I'll gladly give it), spinach, boiled lentils, chicken and beans. Include those in your diet.

Lastly, ensure you deworm regularly (every 3months). Those little guys can cause anemia, not by sucking your blood but by nibbling on your body reserves of folate.

Oh, and the dark stool coloration is because of iron excreted, either because you took too much or your body being unable to absorb it perhaps due to the formulation it is in, etc. I should perhaps emphasize here that you should not take your iron supplements within 2-3hrs of taking milk or antacids. The cations in them (calcium, magnesium, aluminium, etc) will chelate with the ferrous/ferric ions and render it useless.

Take a look at these websites ujionee:

webMD

McKinley

Admittedly, I'm a bit distracted as I type this but I do hope I'm coherent enough. In case anything is unclear, feel free to query. Ugua pole.





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kysse
#15 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:36:07 PM
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danas10 wrote:


..and you wonder why mbuzi's are full of plugs!!! NKT!!!


There are some nice mature people there though.I never spoke or came close to Impunity.
@ Impunity,I don't hit back,I am a jovial person and will forever remain that way.

let me read Rankaz's advice.



murchr
#16 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:38:16 PM
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Impunity wrote:
All,
I have been misunderstood, the underlining humor seems to have been missed most of you.
I WITHDRAW.

@lady admin to edit and remove all my quoted comments!
Sad


There's no humor in being uncooth, you lack dearly in social etiquette, this could be as a result of upbringing but take it from me, you need to learn how to address people not only in this forum but in every other place you find yourself in. Bad language is a turn-off just like the smell of poop. Shame on you
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jguru
#17 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:54:42 PM
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Essie, you are not necessarily unwell.

If the thorough blood test means a blood Haemoglobin (Hb) test done from pricking a finger, then it cannot have been very thorough. Why not pick a big vein in your arm and draw blood for a complete blood count and a blood smear? That will help assess the red blood cells as well as the white blood cells and platelets.

Well, medical conclusions should be drawn from tests from reputable institutions. Get the test repeated at a reputable lab and report back.

Normal HB levels in our setting, in a lady, are between 8 and 14. Having a Hb of 7 does not portend the end of the world.

It will take you 3-4 months of 10mls Once-A-Day of Ranferon/Saferon (oral ferrous sulphate) to raise your Hb by 2 Units. You will need to take it for about 6 months to replenish your iron stores. I don't know why you got a ferrous sulphate prescription anyway. If there was no CBC test with MCV (Mean Corpuscular Volume) and MCHC (Mean Cell Hemoglobin Concentration) values, then how did they arrive at Iron Deficiency Anemia?

Actually, the task at hand is to know 1. Where your body is losing blood from 2. What is destroying your blood cells 3. Is your bone marrow producing your blood cells as efficiently as it should.
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
jguru
#18 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:03:34 PM
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McReggae wrote:
King G wrote:
@Impunity, that comment is not fair to our senior wazua lady. Sad Sad Sad


It's in very bad taste and should be withdrawn!!!


Impunity runs his mouth without thinking. Makes some very insensitive comments.

I remember there was a time he laughed at Kethi because she has a head as big as a hydrocephalus baby! Sad Sad

How do you make jokes of babies with congenital disorders? Sad Sad
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
kysse
#19 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:12:50 PM
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@ Guru,
He applauds when a male MP hits a woman in parliament.
Proudly describes how AK's hubby pours hot water on her back.
I often wonder why a man would rejoice at evil metted out on females or worse why he attacks females all the time.

Reading yours now.

Rankaz13 wrote:

@kysse, kwanza pole zangu. I presume you're a socket smile , right? A Hb level of 7 is recipe for disaster my dear especially for a female (what with the usual biological processes, you know what I mean smile ) and you're lucky your doc didn't admit you. Seriously, Hb of 7 and below us considered anemia and is recipe for admission and subsequent blood transfusion.
I have hit 5 before,felt ok


Without dwelling too much on the signs to look out for, most common ones include general lethargy and a feeling of 'tiredness' on exertion, so that one will constantly feel breathless and tired after a shirt flight of stairs (going up, not downsmile ), after a brisk walk or light jogging.
Suprisingly,I am a road runner with excess energy. I run up and down stairs,walk like lightining,fast in everything I do,I don't get easily fatigued until after I am done with work.
Where does this extra energy come from?


There are a variety of causes of anemia which I'll not necessarily dwell on. In an otherwise healthy individual, most common causes may be due to poor diet as well as bleeding (e.g after an injury/accident, or a bleeding gastric/duodenal ulcer) as well as biological (sockets),- ok now it will drop to 6.

I'd advise you to go for Zeefee syrup, it's packaged in a red/white box with a bottle shaped 'kama ya mzinga'. A 200ml bottle should cost in the region of 320-360 bob and will give you faster results than some of the competing brands. Take 10mls thrice daily.
Thank you ,I am definately going for it.
Should I stop the saferon intake when I start on zeerup? I take 1 x 2 tabs of saferon daily and began today.Is there anything like excess iron intake? consequences?

It's important to note that citric acid improves iron absorption, hence if you have access to your citrus fruits, the better. There are some other formulations that contain ferrous citrate for that very reason. Also note that most of these formulations, in addition to the ferrous component, may also contain folate/folic acid as well as vitamin B12/cyanocobalamin. Reason is all these molecules are synergistic in so far as hemoglobin synthesis is concerned so they therefore are beneficial. By the time your body begins to exhibit iron deficiency, chances are very high that there are varying levels of deficiency if the other two too.
jargon nayo but somehow I understand.

That said, supplements are not for the long term. We need to look at your diet for that purpose. Need I emphasize on the iron-rich foods? Off the too of my head, liver and kidney (hizi kama hujui kupika hata afadhali uitishe recipe, I'll gladly give it),
I hate liver, kidneys,whether fried dry,barbequed or anything.They have this nauseating taste.
Can they be be marinated in say vinegar to get rid of the'taste'?
I love fish and chicken.Pray

spinach, boiled lentils, chicken and beans.
Those I am okay with.

Lastly, ensure you deworm regularly (every 3months). Those little guys can cause anemia, not by sucking your blood but by nibbling on your body reserves of folate.
lol. How can one tell if they have worms when they look all healthy? no extended tummy,stomach aches,constipation skin rashes etc?

Oh, and the dark stool coloration is because of iron excreted, either because you took too much or and your body being unable to absorb it perhaps due to the formulation it is in,etc.
Thank you for that.I was once told that,I will check the stool for discolouration,should I stop the intake it its disc?
I should perhaps emphasize here that you should not take your iron supplements within 2-3hrs of taking milk or antacids. The cations in them (calcium, magnesium, aluminium, etc) will chelate with the ferrous/ferric ions and render it useless.
Thank God I don't take milk.

Take a look at these websites ujionee:

webMD

McKinley



Thank you.
Amazing the amount of energy I have in me.
Impunity
#20 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:28:22 PM
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kysse wrote:
@ Guru,
He applauds when a male MP hits a woman in parliament.
Proudly describes how AK's hubby pours hot water on her back.
I often wonder why a man would rejoice at evil metted out on females or worse why he attacks females all the time.



Me attacking females? All the time? You don't me.
Never ever have I done so.
My only weakness is that I see things the way they are.
Pole sana. I have since withdrawn, can a person be forgiven?
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