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wanyee
#41 Posted : Friday, July 19, 2013 10:22:10 PM
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there seems to exist a gap in knowledge ..between those with ideas to solve the problems and those who are facing the problems ..how to bridge this gap ..?
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Wakanyugi
#42 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:29:11 AM
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My dear friends,

I have read all your comments. I am afraid I still disagree on one point.

Most of you are trying to give the government a pass on this issue.

Why the hell then did so many Kenyans vote for them, if not not to address problems like this, which for many are literally a matter of life and death?

Why should the kind of poverty that Cheserem wept about be acceptable in Kenya today?

I'll tell you why. Because many of those with power think it is more important to take care of the minority rich than the majority poor.

Such thinking has to be reversed, otherwise our country is doomed.

The rich don't need help. The poor do. It makes economic, moral, political and social sense.

Why is it so hard to see this?

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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McReggae
#43 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:31:56 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
My dear friends,

I have read all your comments. I am afraid I still disagree on one point.

Most of you are trying to give the government a pass on this issue.

Why the hell then did so many Kenyans vote for them, if not not to address problems like this, which for many are literally a matter of life and death?

Why should the kind of poverty that Cheserem wept about be acceptable in Kenya today?

I'll tell you why. Because many of those with power think it is more important to take care of the minority rich than the majority poor.

Such thinking has to be reversed, otherwise our country is doomed.

The rich don't need help. The poor do. It makes economic, moral, political and social sense.

Why is it so hard to see this?



.....you also read my comment???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Wakanyugi
#44 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:38:36 AM
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McReggae wrote:


.....you also read my comment???


Not you Makerenge.

I don't always agree with you but on this one we can agree.

By the way RAO was my favorite politician. And then he became Crime Minister and proceeded to do f.ck all for the poor sods who died for him.

We need a revolution and not just a political one.


"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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McReggae
#45 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:43:43 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
McReggae wrote:


.....you also read my comment???


Not you Makerenge.
I don't always agree with you but on this one we can agree.

By the way RAO was my favorite politician. And then he became Crime Minister and proceeded to do f.ck all for the poor sods who died for him.

We need a revolution and not just a political one.




Sasa before we engage lazima matusi yawa???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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McReggae
#46 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:46:50 AM
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The suffering must all unite and know they are on their own......they must after that confront the leadership fo services to be rendered!!!

The other route is kinda utopian.....a leader with REAL people's problems at heart that will rise to the most top leadership position!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Wakanyugi
#47 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:53:13 AM
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McReggae wrote:


Sasa before we engage lazima matusi yawa???


My apologies. I have always been poor at typing in Scottish smile

But the point is made. We have more than 20 million poor Kenyans. Thinks of the sheer waste of talent and potential this number represents.

If I was in Government (whether in Jubilee or Cord), addressing this problem would be my number one priority.

Do you disagree?

Then tell me what is more important than this?
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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McReggae
#48 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 12:58:03 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
McReggae wrote:


Sasa before we engage lazima matusi yawa???


My apologies. I have always been poor at typing in Scottish smile

But the point is made. We have more than 20 million poor Kenyans. Thinks of the sheer waste of talent and potential this number represents.

If I was in Government (whether in Jubilee or Cord), addressing this problem would be my number one priority.

Do you disagree?
Then tell me what is more important than this?


Bro I can't agree more....our people must be empowereed, this is my best hobby, even now away from home I'm coordinating something I believe betters the lives of the people......the Govt of the day must take steps to show peopl the potential they can reach.......that villager in kitui will never do it on his own!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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murchr
#49 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:02:06 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
McReggae wrote:


Sasa before we engage lazima matusi yawa???


My apologies. I have always been poor at typing in Scottish smile

But the point is made. We have more than 20 million poor Kenyans. Thinks of the sheer waste of talent and potential this number represents.

If I was in Government (whether in Jubilee or Cord), addressing this problem would be my number one priority.

Do you disagree?

Then tell me what is more important than this?



@Wakanyugi, don't expect leaders of the caliber of Kaloozer to sort out the poverty issue. Thats why they always play the tribal card everytime people ask anything about poverty. Reason being, when Moi was in power you could ask him anything and you'd get. Knowing this, General Mulinge asked Moi for elec supply to Kangundo plus the Nrb Kangundo road to be tarmacked and he got it. If Kaloozer really had a heart for the people of Kitui North a constituency he represented before it was hived off to become Mwingi then he'd have done something. But no.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Wakanyugi
#50 Posted : Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:07:58 AM
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tycho wrote:
You are saying that because it's easy to identify a conspicuous consumer then it's easy to identify one who has no money to spend, and therefore, the man with no money needs to be given money so that he can spend.


Tycho, my brother, I am simply saying this. If we want it to happen we can make it happen. It is not rocket science. It has been done before.

Heck, we have done more complex and difficult things than this in Kenya.

The problem is attitude: we insist on seeing the poor as a liability, rather than as the an-utilized resource, which is what they are.

This needs to change.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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