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Teachers Strike!!!
McReggae
#261 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:23:25 AM
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alma wrote:
Sure fire ALL of them. Hire dunderheads as replacements. Next year we start complaining about the standards of education. So we propose to change from 8-4-4 to 13-24 with extra big laptops.

Let's deal with the issues instead of hiding. Gov't made a promise, gov't must pay. Otherwise what you have is a banana republic.

Someone needs to lay extra hands on this gov't to understand that negotiations are what gov'ts do for a living.

But its ok. At least it will be a major achievement in the gov't. I can just see it

"In the first 100 days, the gov't fired all the teachers"
This is progress I tell you.


Laughing out loudly Applause
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
alma
#262 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:38:27 AM
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My rule of thumb is simple. If this gov't is still paying for Anglo-leasing, then they should also honour this contract. Even if it is something they don't like. Unless they are saying they like Anglo-leasing.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
simonkabz
#263 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:51:19 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
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Location: Cameroon
alma wrote:
Sure fire ALL of them. Hire dunderheads as replacements. Next year we start complaining about the standards of education. So we propose to change from 8-4-4 to 13-24 with extra big laptops.

Let's deal with the issues instead of hiding. Gov't made a promise, gov't must pay. Otherwise what you have is a banana republic.

Someone needs to lay extra hands on this gov't to understand that negotiations are what gov'ts do for a living.

But its ok. At least it will be a major achievement in the gov't. I can just see it

"In the first 100 days, the gov't fired all the teachers"

This is progress I tell you.


You call other pple whiners but I guess u are the biggest one.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
simonkabz
#264 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:55:18 AM
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Location: Cameroon
Njung'e wrote:
Knut might as well have made a mistake by daring TSC/Kaimenyi.....but if i were TSC,i would have fired all the teachers first and then give them a chance to re-apply before going for fresh recruits....ama?


With the public service threatening to go on strike, best move is to make an example out of the teachers. Sack them all, they reapply afresh under new terms, now that the opposition has made this political. Then peace shall prevail.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
alma
#265 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:01:47 AM
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Joined: 7/20/2007
Posts: 4,432
simonkabz wrote:
alma wrote:
Sure fire ALL of them. Hire dunderheads as replacements. Next year we start complaining about the standards of education. So we propose to change from 8-4-4 to 13-24 with extra big laptops.

Let's deal with the issues instead of hiding. Gov't made a promise, gov't must pay. Otherwise what you have is a banana republic.

Someone needs to lay extra hands on this gov't to understand that negotiations are what gov'ts do for a living.

But its ok. At least it will be a major achievement in the gov't. I can just see it

"In the first 100 days, the gov't fired all the teachers"

This is progress I tell you.


You call other pple whiners but I guess u are the biggest one.


I guess the only matusi I can come up with today is calling you "simonkabz"

The only people who think that firing ALL the teachers are those who think we are still in election period.

Something tells me even the guys at TSC are doing this not to implement it but to have a levearage position in their negotiations.

Firing 268,000 people is not a place this country needs to be. Ask the banks with bank loans these fellows have on their books.


Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
McReggae
#266 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:02:22 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Knut might as well have made a mistake by daring TSC/Kaimenyi.....but if i were TSC,i would have fired all the teachers first and then give them a chance to re-apply before going for fresh recruits....ama?


With the public service threatening to go on strike, best move is to make an example out of the teachers. Sack them all, they reapply afresh under new terms, now that the opposition has made this political. Then peace shall prevail.


Clear reason why public office aint mean for some people.........did Kaimenyi here me????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
simonkabz
#267 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:11:34 AM
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McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Knut might as well have made a mistake by daring TSC/Kaimenyi.....but if i were TSC,i would have fired all the teachers first and then give them a chance to re-apply before going for fresh recruits....ama?


With the public service threatening to go on strike, best move is to make an example out of the teachers. Sack them all, they reapply afresh under new terms, now that the opposition has made this political. Then peace shall prevail.


Clear reason why public office aint mean for some people.........did Kaimenyi here me????


I believe all is possible. I'm not sympathising with the teachers any more. Tunawesmek.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
maka
#268 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:14:31 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Knut might as well have made a mistake by daring TSC/Kaimenyi.....but if i were TSC,i would have fired all the teachers first and then give them a chance to re-apply before going for fresh recruits....ama?


With the public service threatening to go on strike, best move is to make an example out of the teachers. Sack them all, they reapply afresh under new terms, now that the opposition has made this political. Then peace shall prevail.


Clear reason why public office aint mean for some people.........did Kaimenyi here me????


I believe all is possible. I'm not sympathising with the teachers any more. Tunawesmek.


Are there people on strike who voted for Jubilee or all striking teachers are from CORD?
possunt quia posse videntur
simonkabz
#269 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:20:08 AM
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Maka, futa yote ata ya PK.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
McReggae
#270 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:29:56 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Maka, futa yote ata ya PK.


Alikuwa nayo kweli???Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
thuks
#271 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:33:30 AM
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McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Knut might as well have made a mistake by daring TSC/Kaimenyi.....but if i were TSC,i would have fired all the teachers first and then give them a chance to re-apply before going for
fresh recruits....ama?


With the public service threatening to go on strike, best move is to make an example out of the teachers. Sack them all, they reapply afresh under new terms, now that the opposition has made this political. Then peace shall prevail.


Clear reason why public office aint mean for some people.........did Kaimenyi here me????


I think he " herd" you.smile
I care!
Magigi
#272 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:34:11 AM
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Sorce https://www.facebook.com...alai?hc_location=stream




45 years of age!!!! Jesus Christ!!!
QD
#273 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:37:14 AM
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Magigi wrote:


The highlighted means very very old i tell you.
Those<45 waende wapi.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
thuks
#274 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:37:14 AM
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Anyone with numbers of how many job sekers have registered ?
I care!
segemia
#275 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:54:46 AM
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alma wrote:


Firing 268,000 people is not a place this country needs to be. Ask the banks with bank loans these fellows have on their books.



Are you saying that an employer will is not supposed to fire an employee simply because of his (employee's) external liabilities?
This is purely fallicious!!
maka
#276 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:58:42 AM
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segemia wrote:
alma wrote:


Firing 268,000 people is not a place this country needs to be. Ask the banks with bank loans these fellows have on their books.



Are you saying that an employer will is not supposed to fire an employee simply because of his (employee's) external liabilities?
This is purely fallicious!!


Look at the bigger picture...
possunt quia posse videntur
MADE
#277 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:08:14 AM
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segemia wrote:
alma wrote:


Firing 268,000 people is not a place this country needs to be. Ask the banks with bank loans these fellows have on their books.



Are you saying that an employer will is not supposed to fire an employee simply because of his (employee's) external liabilities?
This is purely fallicious!!

..I think the point is that effects of sacking such a big lot would spiral to other sectors of the economy. Any adverse decision must be consultative enough. E.g ...assume 200,000 teachers have bank loans averaging 50k;the net effect of default (bila interest) would casually sum up to 10B, with Equity the most affected.For this reason, Rotich n Adan Mohammed must be consulted for opinion.
Age is transforming me into an Elder;becoz Admin hasn't made me one.
McReggae
#278 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:08:35 AM
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There is one 44 year old who left college 24 years ago and has been drinking chang'aa in my village is eligible!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
maka
#279 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:15:14 AM
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McReggae wrote:
There is one 44 year old who left college 24 years ago and has been drinking chang'aa in my village is eligible!!!!!

mwambie he speeds up his application...
possunt quia posse videntur
Ante_Christa
#280 Posted : Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:26:17 AM
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MADE wrote:
segemia wrote:
alma wrote:


Firing 268,000 people is not a place this country needs to be. Ask the banks with bank loans these fellows have on their books.



Are you saying that an employer will is not supposed to fire an employee simply because of his (employee's) external liabilities?
This is purely fallicious!!

..I think the point is that effects of sacking such a big lot would spiral to other sectors of the economy. Any adverse decision must be consultative enough. E.g ...assume 200,000 teachers have bank loans averaging 50k;the net effect of default (bila interest) would casually sum up to 10B, with Equity the most affected.For this reason, Rotich n Adan Mohammed must be consulted for opinion.



Also there are at least 268,000 bank accounts. If they run empty, or if their use is minimized, what will the banks charge for them?

This is like an octopus.

When one arm moves the whole organism moves.
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