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Baby friendly vaccines...
maka
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:43:05 PM
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Whats the difference between this vaccines and the ordinary ones?Why should i pay an arm and a leg 14k for a shot just coz its baby friendly...
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Mukiri
#2 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:54:08 PM
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I've read terrible things about vaccines. Maybe the question you should be asking is, 'to do' or 'not to do'?

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maka
#3 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:06:01 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
I've read terrible things about vaccines. Maybe the question you should be asking is, 'to do' or 'not to do'?

I was discussing with some seniors hapa and there kids are taking those baby friendly vaccines just coz they were told to get it no valid reason....no concrete reason...ok ati sijui the baby dsnt cry a lot its painless...
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sherrif
#4 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:30:41 PM
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This painfree generation..
How did we survive these vaccines bila madoido and yet we are grew up strong.
You see everything can be tailor made to suit preferences but they work the same way.
The vaccines are also made purely for the babies so the manufacturer's I believe, will try to reduce the side effects altogether.

But if you don't want your baby to ever cry out of pain,you are simply creating a barbie doll, not a human.The day that kid will be subjected to pain katapass out in shock.

I know we must be advanced but the beneficiaries of madoido are the pharma companies not your baby.

Rankaz13
#5 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:11:30 PM
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sherrif wrote:
This painfree generation..
How did we survive these vaccines bila madoido and yet we are grew up strong.
You see everything can be tailor made to suit preferences but they work the same way.
The vaccines are also made purely for the babies so the manufacturer's I believe, will try to reduce the side effects altogether.

But if you don't want your baby to ever cry out of pain,you are simply creating a barbie doll, not a human.The day that kid will be subjected to pain katapass out in shock.

I know we must be advanced but the beneficiaries of madoido are the pharma companies not your baby.



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maka
#6 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:13:35 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
sherrif wrote:
This painfree generation..
How did we survive these vaccines bila madoido and yet we are grew up strong.
You see everything can be tailor made to suit preferences but they work the same way.
The vaccines are also made purely for the babies so the manufacturer's I believe, will try to reduce the side effects altogether.

But if you don't want your baby to ever cry out of pain,you are simply creating a barbie doll, not a human.The day that kid will be subjected to pain katapass out in shock.

I know we must be advanced but the beneficiaries of madoido are the pharma companies not your baby.



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Thats what i thought but this guys say that just coz u pitiad smthn u shudnt subject ua kids to the same...they shud get beta.
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masukuma
#7 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:14:02 PM
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boss... hii mambo ya watoto kushinda na mafever NIMEWACHA NYUMA. nothing but baby friendlies for me. my wife sometimes says 'oh...' 'oh...cost...' - this is the price of progress.
sherrif wrote:
you are simply creating a barbie doll, not a human.The day that kid will be subjected to pain katapass out in shock.

Kwani ni competition? mbona watu wanameza pain killers? at the end of the day hakuna medals for bearing pain! lets face it science has marched on and we have better pharmaceuticals in place. its like taking malariaquin or some other old bitter drug - ndio usikie ukali and yet there are newer drugs in the market. lets face it the easier you make life for your kids better the better! its like people giving births 'naturally' so that they can feel pain HAKUNA MEDAL! end justifies the means.
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Dash
#8 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:19:41 PM
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I think kepi vaccines (gok) are fine. With addition of rotavirus and hepatitis from the baby friendly vaccines ua good to go. Hizo za pneumonia sijui flu mmmhhhhhh hapana
sherrif
#9 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:33:44 PM
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masukuma wrote:
science has marched on and we have better pharmaceuticals in place. its like taking malariaquin or some other old bitter drug - ndio usikie ukali and yet there are newer drugs in the market. lets face it the easier you make life for your kids better the better! its like people giving births 'naturally' so that they can feel pain HAKUNA MEDAL! end justifies the means.


Go for what you can afford simple and if you can't go kawaida no big deal.
Infact tumeendelea hadi we have mother's for hire.
Avail the womb and carry her baby for her to remain fit,wacha hata CS-Mother works all through,life goes on without morning sicknesses etc etc.smile
It's called Maendeleo and that's where we are heading
No crying mothers or babies.smile

masukuma
#10 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:37:51 PM
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sherrif wrote:
masukuma wrote:
science has marched on and we have better pharmaceuticals in place. its like taking malariaquin or some other old bitter drug - ndio usikie ukali and yet there are newer drugs in the market. lets face it the easier you make life for your kids better the better! its like people giving births 'naturally' so that they can feel pain HAKUNA MEDAL! end justifies the means.


Go for what you can afford simple and if you can't go kawaida no big deal.
Infact tumeendelea hadi we have mother's for hire.
Avail the womb and carry her baby for her to remain fit,wacha hata CS-Mother works all through,life goes on without morning sicknesses etc etc.smile
It's called Maendeleo and that's where we are heading
No crying mothers or babies.smile


and that is what we call 'progress'... we march on! but you are right - at the end of the day you should go for what u can afford!
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Mukiri
#11 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:51:49 PM
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I can afford heroin, cocaine and a host of other 'drugs' for my kids... but wouldn't consider giving it to them.

It is not 'what you can afford', it is 'what is good for them!' ... The question I put across, what are the effects, intended and side-effects of these vaccines? Babies have been reduced to a vegetative-state, others lost their lives etc Not to mention we now have a weaker, more cancer-prone generation in comparison to our fathers... Mimi nashuku hizi vaccines ZOTE!

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Rankaz13
#12 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:55:52 PM
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Dash wrote:
I think kepi vaccines (gok) are fine. With addition of rotavirus and hepatitis from the baby friendly vaccines ua good to go. Hizo za pneumonia sijui flu mmmhhhhhh hapana


Don't discount them just yet, especially for those under 5yrs of age or with some pre-existing certain risk factors such as respiratory allergies, some types of cancers as well as heart disease.
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masukuma
#13 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:01:56 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
I can afford heroin, cocaine and a host of other 'drugs' for my kids... but wouldn't consider giving it to them.

It is not 'what you can afford', it is 'what is good for them!' ... The question I put across, what are the effects, intended and side-effects of these vaccines? Babies have been reduced to a vegetative-state, others lost their lives etc Not to mention we now have a weaker, more cancer-prone generation in comparison to our fathers... Mimi nashuku hizi vaccines ZOTE!

kama sio vaccines tungekuwa tunakufa kama mamende. who told you your grand fathers lived long? before wakolonis came life expectancy in pre-colonial Africa was between 20 and 22 years - no time to discover that people had cancer or any other disease. families used to be big because people died like flies. compare the deaths because of these vaccines and the deaths from the diseases themselves. Boss - stop looking back, there is nothing there only death and ignorance. move forward. lets continue working on the chinks of what we have now. believe it or not the "good old days" were not so good....
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kysse
#14 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:03:52 PM
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mmh.

let's hear both sides herbal,traditional vs modern.
masukuma
#15 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:07:24 PM
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Dash wrote:
I think kepi vaccines (gok) are fine. With addition of rotavirus and hepatitis from the baby friendly vaccines ua good to go. Hizo za pneumonia sijui flu mmmhhhhhh hapana


nilikuwa kama wewe... asking arrogantly - vaccine ya flu ya nini?? my boy alikuwa anapata mahoma huku zinakuwa mbaya mbaka anatapika... i regretted not inoculating him. when i got a chance later i asked for flu vaccination believe it or not homa sasa ni kama inapita juu! hizi vitu unadharau zitakusave stress mob... vaccinate everything HAKUNA MEDAL YA KUUMIA!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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