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Khalwale and the dangerous traditions.
Impunity
#1 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:05:00 AM
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Did you see how they dressed to scare away death?And the way they went on a destruction spree after the burial,slushing all the healthy maize and banana plantations.Do we still need this type of culture in the 21st century?Destroying crops from the already bereaved family!

Which is more dirty,the pig or Kenyan mp?
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wazamali
#2 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:18:00 AM
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@ Impunity

This is just simply a way of 'crying' Some people roll on the ground,somersault etc...

Different mourning styles for different cultures






Chunga mali yako...
Wendz
#3 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:28:00 AM
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@Wazamali

With famine staring right into our pupils,dont you think they should have looked for a different way of 'crying'? Or does the society later compensate the bereaved family for the destruction? ama how do they survive after that?

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Njunge
#4 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:34:00 AM
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@Wendz,

What?.....Compensate?....that 'crying' alone is half the story.........By the time they are through with burrying,any cow left standing would be so lucky.As for tsingokho,it's a massacre.


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Jalofg
#5 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 8:35:00 AM
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Sociologists say there is no superior culture..... but this is too backward

Jalofg
Sober
#6 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 9:22:00 AM
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We are talking of a region where food is never a problem here. You seem to be forgeting this.

A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing posibility.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Impunity
#7 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 1:26:00 PM
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You mean destroying food crop is crying?And from an honourable MPig!

Which is more dirty,the pig or Kenyan mp?
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Achiever
#8 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 1:43:00 PM
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sober

food a problem or not.......

how does destruction relate to mourning?


don't worry....be happy
ikonini
#9 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 1:56:00 PM
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hehe! i would love to be a neighbour when my lawn needs mowing!!

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wazamali
#10 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 2:00:00 PM
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@Wendz

Culture is beautiful,and it is a way of life just like religion. If you begin to question religion or culture...it crumbles. We are human and each culture is unique and identifies us. Slashing bananas,trees,bushes etc,as a way of mourning just shows how deeply hurt we are by a particular death.

My Nigerian friends do similar things,it is not just constrained to Nyanza / Western provinces. It is African. Dont question it so much,it will die off slowly as the land we posess gets smaller and less productive




Chunga mali yako...
Wendz
#11 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 2:20:00 PM
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Ok@wazamali I will do with that explanation.

By the way,i am always curious about other cultures... i do not necessarily agree with all of them but i always love learning about them. For some cultures in kenya,i know much more about them than the born-towns of those communities....

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
murenj
#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:13:00 PM
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In the past this ceremony was performed to honour a departed hero. It is the greatest honour reserved only for the bravest warriors in the community. The ceremony is a simulation of a war scene,banana trees representing the enemy. The age mates of the departed go through the combat motions as artfully as possible limiting the damage to banana stems and trees. But malicious elements do infiltrate the ceremony. Some families now seek protection from the provincial administration especially if they have a precious crop in the shamba.

Guka killer.
simonkabz
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:58:00 AM
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I hav witnessed many of these n to say the least,the luhya culture is interesting. At one time the only cow (was producing milk at that time) was slaughtered by the mourners. These guys dnt even donate food.By the end of the ceremony,no breadwinner,no cow,store empty!

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Shak
#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:10:00 AM
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I'm not familiar with the culture either but surely there must be a support system from the community for those left behind especially if everything they had that was of value has been destroyed

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