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erifloss
#111 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:20:41 PM
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erifloss wrote:


#1799 Posted : Saturday, May 28, 2011 4:52:27 PM
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@vvs, all i'm trying to show is that all the hype around KK as this future gem as it stands right now is wrong.
1. Instead of being noisemakers, they should at least concentrate on lobbying for new legislature BAT or EABL style so as to get what they want.
2. Instead of being a one man show and thus being deprived of new ground breaking ideas, they should separate the responsibilities of the BOD from that of the Management by first having a non executive chairman & maybe reconstitute its management.
3. Instead of only divesting by opening retail business in different countries, they should also look into other lines of the oil business.
4. Globally, the business of oil is highly politicised as we globally are an oil driven economy & thus as an OMC you should always know the best way of dealing with the current politik.
5. Being only 2 listed OMCs, an illusion of comfort is always created by KK coz of its liquidity within the NSE & thus its price fluctuations when as per the last market survey the largest retailer in Kenya(largest oil market in EA) was Total though this doesn't mean that Total is better.
6. I know i'll be reminded of their profitability & growth but my query is do you see them sustaining this growth?
The reality is if KK never changes its way of doing biz, i see it as the biggest loser on UG's oil and thus not as a long term prospect.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
Metasploit
#112 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:22:46 PM
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If the price was manipulated we would be seeing a sizable sell side at a price above 8.60 but we are seeing a sizable sell side at price of 8.00.Meaning a desperate exit

Note very diminished Demand.The only sizable demand is at 7.50 and a weak demand at 7.80

Let us see how the demand at 7.80 will behave as the week ends

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
youcan'tstopusnow
#113 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:24:34 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
If the news is true,why are you allergic to true news?its only bad if the news were a fabrication,and kk has never come out to complain anyway...but wazua has kk's spokesmen.

Hear, hear.
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mwekez@ji
#114 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:25:38 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
If the news is true,why are you allergic to true news?its only bad if the news were a fabrication,and kk has never come out to complain anyway...but wazua has kk's spokesmen.

symbols
#115 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:26:08 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
If the price was manipulated we would be seeing a sizable sell side at a price above 8.60 but we are seeing a sizable sell side at price of 8.00.Meaning a desperate exit

Note very diminished Demand.The only sizable demand is at 7.50 but weak

Let us see how the demand at 7.50 will behave as the week ends


The manipulation was at 8.8/8.9.They needed to break 9 and fast.After that the sellers did the work for them.
mwekez@ji
#116 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:27:36 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
They dont even have working capital.

mwekez@ji
#117 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:31:48 PM
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symbols wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
If the price was manipulated we would be seeing a sizable sell side at a price above 8.60 but we are seeing a sizable sell side at price of 8.00.Meaning a desperate exit

Note very diminished Demand.The only sizable demand is at 7.50 but weak

Let us see how the demand at 7.50 will behave as the week ends


The manipulation was at 8.8/8.9.They needed to break 9 and fast.After that the sellers did the work for them.


Seller with over 10M shares selling at 8 is certainly an informed persons (read its a top 10 shareholder with access to loads of info)
mlennyma
#118 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:42:00 PM
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I assume the top 10 shareholders run the company,if their faith is gone.....
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mwekez@ji
#119 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:49:17 PM
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hisah wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
[ KK / the price haircut seems deliberate. Someone wants in, but at the cheapest discount they can get. Buying those assets dirty cheap is a sharks dream.


... the big investor(s) so desperately want out and willing buyers are matching at low price (willing seller willing buyer market). How is that deliberate price haircut¿ Or are you indirectly pointing that the counter is being manipulated¿

Markets are manipulated. Think like a hedgefund. Flood supply then double down after the price crash. If you can forced discounts you take the chance...


Thinking. Meaning, if the high voulume at 8 is their doubling down, we have a bottom. If not, then the crash is still on and we will see crazy volumes going forward. with this mindset, pick some now or not
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#120 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:53:29 PM
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With 7.95 printing at KK and KQ doing 9.70, it seems like a race to zeroSad
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