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Kenol Kobil deal off!
Realtreaty
#81 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2013 6:10:49 PM
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Sad What would Biwwot share holding at KK do after he sells and leave? Would it not be just shares changing hands or Biwwot had any influence.
Would Biwott invest his money in Nationl oil?
VituVingiSana
#82 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:37:45 PM
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Kausha wrote:
Immmaculate is twat of a journalist and embarassment to her teachers. KK did 4.7m cubic meters of oil in 2012. Lets assume 2m cubic meters was OTS going through KOSIF ullage. Then how would a company that does 2.7m cubic meters in other words 2.7m tonnes of fuel in 10 african countries have 5,000 cubic meters of storage space in Kenya. Is she suggesting the rest of the oil is traded via text or email ama?

The thing is KK has been the only brave oil marketer fighting the REAL cartels at the ministry of energy and KPRL who want to profit for no investment. The one company that is going to shut for sure is KPRL. It owes marketers 7B and karambu ackowledges that much so how is it that she didn't find that a story worth verifying of providing more details?

That article was poorly researched. And I am being polite. 5,000 m3 of diesel storage [in its largest market] is peanuts for KK which has 93,500 m3 of storage in the region! KK & KPRL will eventually meet in the middle but for now KK stations are doing OK despite a few hitches. I am sure many briefcase dealers would be happy to get 1/- a liter from KK to access fuel from the OTS or even KPRL...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#83 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:32:56 PM
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The shakeout continues... Need more blood in the streets to kick out all weak hands...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#84 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:52:52 PM
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murchr wrote:
Will it print a 8/-? @hisah warned guys not to hold on this when it printed 15/- Segmans silence was tooooo loud.

One heck of a rollercoaster shakeout it has been. Must ulcers central wanjikus to fever pitch capitulation, then the sharks home in...

Oil stocks are 'hard' to trade for a reason...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#85 Posted : Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:48:29 PM
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hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Will it print a 8/-? @hisah warned guys not to hold on this when it printed 15/- Segmans silence was tooooo loud.

One heck of a rollercoaster shakeout it has been. Must ulcers central wanjikus to fever pitch capitulation, then the sharks home in...

Oil stocks are 'hard' to trade for a reason...



would u be interested in this as a trader. though fundies not solid. high risk, high return(order loss)
notice how bad the articles are getting since share plumet and segman exit. even worse than during the huge loss of fy2012!! seen the standard talking about 'total man'. you'd think it was the real total man.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
murchr
#86 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 12:18:09 AM
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hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Will it print a 8/-? @hisah warned guys not to hold on this when it printed 15/- Segmans silence was tooooo loud.

One heck of a rollercoaster shakeout it has been. Must ulcers central wanjikus to fever pitch capitulation, then the sharks home in...

Oil stocks are 'hard' to trade for a reason...



Woo....I expect to see a 7.xy tomorrow.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#87 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 3:59:07 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Will it print a 8/-? @hisah warned guys not to hold on this when it printed 15/- Segmans silence was tooooo loud.

One heck of a rollercoaster shakeout it has been. Must ulcers central wanjikus to fever pitch capitulation, then the sharks home in...

Oil stocks are 'hard' to trade for a reason...



would u be interested in this as a trader. though fundies not solid. high risk, high return(order loss)
notice how bad the articles are getting since share plumet and segman exit. even worse than during the huge loss of fy2012!! seen the standard talking about 'total man'. you'd think it was the real total man.

Definitely interested in this and KQ as the negative sentiments get extreme day after day. But that GoK spin on KQ has put me off. Unless they guarantee to help it wipe off some debt to make it an easy trade.

As for KK the price haircut seems deliberate. Someone wants in, but at the cheapest discount they can get. Buying those assets dirty cheap is a sharks dream.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
the deal
#88 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:13:48 AM
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The operating environment in Kenya has become hostile...KK needs to sell its Kenyan operations and focus on going South and other east & central Africa countries....GoK only wants one OMC standing...thats NOCK....if NOCK buys Kenol Kenya....NOCK's market share will jump sigf enough to influence pump prices through discounts...
VituVingiSana
#89 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:36:04 AM
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hisah wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Will it print a 8/-? @hisah warned guys not to hold on this when it printed 15/- Segmans silence was tooooo loud.

One heck of a rollercoaster shakeout it has been. Must ulcers central wanjikus to fever pitch capitulation, then the sharks home in...

Oil stocks are 'hard' to trade for a reason...



would u be interested in this as a trader. though fundies not solid. high risk, high return(order loss)
notice how bad the articles are getting since share plumet and segman exit. even worse than during the huge loss of fy2012!! seen the standard talking about 'total man'. you'd think it was the real total man.

Definitely interested in this and KQ as the negative sentiments get extreme day after day. But that GoK spin on KQ has put me off. Unless they guarantee to help it wipe off some debt to make it an easy trade.

As for KK the price haircut seems deliberate. Someone wants in, but at the cheapest discount they can get. Buying those assets dirty cheap is a sharks dream.
My entry point into KQ was 7-ish. I am going to revise that downwards if GoK gets more say in the running of KQ. I have been badly burnt in KPLC. A lesson I learnt the hard way.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#90 Posted : Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:38:54 AM
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the deal wrote:
The operating environment in Kenya has become hostile...KK needs to sell its Kenyan operations and focus on going South and other east & central Africa countries....GoK only wants one OMC standing...thats NOCK....if NOCK buys Kenol Kenya....NOCK's market share will jump sigf enough to influence pump prices through discounts...
is Kenya going socialist? KQ & if NOCK buys KK... not to mention other GoK investments performing sub-par.

We have not seen the audited accounts of NOCK. Where does it get financing? At what cost? Does it get subsidies? Don't forget NOCK gets a guaranteed 30% OTS 'contract' at any price it chooses to buy/sell fuel at.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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