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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 365
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I also have no idea what submission is all about! Which school offers it as part of the curriculum so that we can go for 'masomo ya juu' aiii ngai baba. I will praise thee,O Lord my God,with all my heart: And I will glorify thy name forever more. Psalms 86:12 If you have only one smile in you, give it to the people you love - Maya Angelou
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2007 Posts: 63
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/27/2008 Posts: 150
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Any man who is not well meaning is likely to twist the meaning to his advantage eg. Force his wife to quit her job,treat her like a door mat,abuse her physically when she errs,etc. That.'s why a proper definition would be so important. Kwani there are no pastors on sk? Where's eli,ngwono,etc?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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Juliani,pliz share what made u get so worked up...
@ Jacy26,someone at the bash kept insisting i was you....anyway...i agree kunafaa kuwa na classes....i would soo go ..hehehe.....
I say i will submit,but to what,i don't know....so what exactly is submission..are there married women who can explain how they submit....
If that boy don't love you by now,then he never will-Ciara
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 29
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@Xtina
Submission is
-respecting him as a man(of course he too must respect)
-seeking his advice before undertaking any major project
-Recognize that since time immemorial,a man is the head of the family
-Give him sex when he wants and if you too dont have that headache u nomally feign(dont blame the maid)
-You both respect one anothers family members-But he as the man he will expect u to show more of this respect
-U dont engage in verbal diarhoea with him in public.etc..otc
Is that too hard for sistas to follow?
watoto wengi ni Probleme
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 345
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'..husbands,love your wives even as Christ loved the church....' ..if Christ chose to still luv the church as messed up,vindictive..self centred as it is... ..to love a non-submissive wife is piece of cake!!..love covers a multitude of sins...these three remain...faith.. hope..n love..greatest of these is love.. ..not submission! Ebu just love ur wife! Period.
..if it is not expressly prohibited in law.. DO IT!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/27/2008 Posts: 150
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Thanks jammo. There's too much emphasis being placed on submission as opposed to love. Many men have stopped loving their wives
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 345
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...the flip side bein that i'm still not married so probably i don't kno what i'm sayin but even So... Love ur wives. There's a reason that is the most repeated reference to the role of man in a marriage that is in the bible.. Not mutual trust n understanding..but love. Surely..there must be somethin to it! Plus love is not a response to submission...but submission is a response to love. Respect is earned..not demanded. No wonder mambuyu wana kûn'gûtwa ni mabibi!!
..if it is not expressly prohibited in law.. DO IT!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/18/2007 Posts: 217
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Juiani,Thanks for your clarification of marriage as an institution as opposed to a partnership which is an arrangement. Yes and like all other institutions there are rules that come with them,i.e submission to your man.
Guys and /or good people,when i talk of partnerships,with all due regard to SK member who maybe in that business,am refering to the sickness of homosexual practises.
@ danny6 your definition of submission is the war type while Juliani's is the biblical one.
wote
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2007 Posts: 87
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@Juliani
Husband can turn to Hush-Bad because he only read few words in a sentence,
The saying is like this; 22Wives,submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church,his body,of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ,so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25Husbands,love your wives,just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Kioko
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2007 Posts: 87
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@Juliani
Husband can turn to Hush-Bad because he only read few words in a sentence,
The saying is like this; 22Wives,submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church,his body,of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ,so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25Husbands,love your wives,just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
Kioko
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/4/2007 Posts: 313
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@wote
Either way my definations are correct only that in the bible it has been 'toned' down,infact i would call this euphemism.I agree with you though that women must see their husbands 'higher' than themselves.
'Don't question GOD,as he may say,if you are so eager for answers,then please come up'.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/24/2007 Posts: 68
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When a woman tries on clothing from her closet that feels tight,she will assume she has gained weight. When a man tries something from his closet that feels tight,he will assume the clothing has shrunk.
Male menopause is a lot more fun than female menopause. With female menopause you gain weight and get hot flashes. Male menopause - you get to date young girls and drive motorcycles.
Men forget everything; women remember everything. That's why men need instant replays in sports. They've already forgotten what happened.
Most women are introspective: 'Am I in love? Am I emotionally and creatively fulfilled?'
Most men are outrospective: 'Did my team win? How's my car?'
Men accept compliments much better than women do. Example: 'Mitch,you look great.' Mitch: 'Thanks.' On the other side: 'Ruth,you look great.' Ruth: 'I do? Must be the lighting.'
When four or more men get together,they talk about sports.
When four or more women get together,they talk about men.
muthuri mwanake
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 54
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@juliani
You put it well..wives not submitting to their hubby's has been the cause of problems in marriages...if you show u'r man trash,he'll go lookin for a submissive woman who can appreciate him and even revere him.Its a male emotion to want to dominate and be respected as the dominant one.so sista's should not try and change rules...women who tried to change rules have ended up lonely(martha karua,FIDA women,Wangari mathai-i respect her work deeply)..
Its the Economy..Stupid!!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839
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ever wondered..... what to say to women with no husbands at all.....??? I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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To wives,Ephesians 5 says: 22Wives,submit to your husbands as to the Lord. The some one asks what is the meaning of 'submit'. I will leave that to the wives to figure out because that command is given to them. For the men,the command is,Ephesians 5 says: 25Husbands,love your wives,just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her And to that someone will ask what is love. The answer is to be found in 1st Corinthians 13: 4Love is patient,love is kind. It does not envy,it does not boast,it is not proud. 5It is not rude,it is not self-seeking,it is not easily angered,it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects,always trusts,always hopes,always perseveres. 8Love never fails......13And now these three remain: faith,hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. =========== Now each them is given very clear and unconditional instructions. So,husbands are not told to love their wive if they submit,and wives are not told to submit to husbands when loved! That's why I say: stick to your instructions and everything else will fall into place. Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow) Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/22/2009 Posts: 31
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mukiha many hats eh? at this rate you will be rivaling bishop hon dr margaret wanjiru in no time
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839
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even in the conjugal issue...??? I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/27/2008 Posts: 150
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Once had a drink with a man,his wife and daughter. The man practically did all the talking. Wife did not speak a word,she was clearly intimidated by the man. Man said that his daughter is the best thing that happened to him as if the wife did not exist. Some men would clap their hands and say that's what a wife should be like: don't have an opinion,act invisible i.e be submissive. Very sad
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 384
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@ Juliani,Come to think of it,i have never heard of a marriage breaking because of the wife did not submit. The biggest causes of divorce today is infidelity and financial issues.
I believe if everyone knows his/her role in marriage,and obey God's commandments,all we be well.Well Juliani,since you are already married,you have no choice but to stick it out,u made those vows...if u divorce and re-marry..u still don't have God's blessing...
To be realistic,why do people even marry nowadays? Marriage has gone to the dogs. I will be participating in a certain health project concerning couples in swinging clubs here in Nairobi...Those who do not know what swinging clubs are,....google it up.....I am sooo excited about it....some married couples in Nairobi live hedonistic lifestyles.....a throwback to the Happy Valley era.....will share more....happy marriages to all married couples hahaha.....
If that boy don't love you by now,then he never will-Ciara
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