@xtina,i agree. The concept of submission in today's age has become more challenging as women's earning power continues to increase. Given that a man expects to be higher than the woman in every respect then he also expects it where finances are concerned. When the wife earns more than him,he feels threatened and any issue is blown out of proportion; ' you're not a submissive wife!' he'll say ' or is it because you earn more than i do?' he'll add. Some men will demand that their wives submit they're entire salary to them so that they can feel dominant or in control

R

@Kasheshi my dearest,The marriage institution is priceless and the rules are clear'' so do not attach some commercial value on it.

Hey'' did ever hear of a lady called Thatcher? well she was the Prime -Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. One day Dennis who happened to be her hubby called while she was chairing a cabinet meeting and below is how the conversation went.

''Honey'' what time is diner? am starving'' she had to end the meeting and attend to Dennis's immediate needs. That is how priceless this institution should be. Some things,the rules do not change either with time or technology and marriage is one of them,the others being diplomancy and prostitution.


wote

@ Xtina,i hope you have that book ( Happy Valley) im dying to lay hands on it. Been to all bookshops and cant find it.

This morning Maina Kageni was still at it,a woman called in and and lay her heart out and confessed to having bought her hubby a car,practically built the house they live in and the leech went ahead and confessed to her that he laid the maid and screwed her niece. She is still wondering what to do !

I honestly think its the woman with a problem,we are put under a york in the name of 'submission'.


The Hedonist

@mukiha (once again!) provided a pretty sober answer even for people who may not necessarily believe in the bible. Everyone plays their part and you will have no problem. It is not as complex as we sometimes paint it to be.

In a nutshell,a man must be sensitive to her needs esp. emotional while the woman should be considerate of the guy's ego. It's as simple as that for me. Either party doesn't do that and there will be chaos. Humanity has greatly advanced over the millenia but there are certain innate xtics of men and women that do not change.

However,both must cut to the chase and agree on certain difficult but necessary rules b4 the big leap esp. nowadays.

That said,you cannot word-for-word replicate the dynamics of one relationship directly onto another...people are different and this has to be taken into consideration.

@ Mukiha

Please correct your second sentence. I'm sure it should read a Covenant for those who do trust each other.

22Slaves,obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it,not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor,but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

The uniqueness of this time is that Slavely has come to an end. The opening of the Declaration of Independence written by Thomas Jefferson in 1776,states as follows





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We hold these truths to be self-evident,that all men are created equal,that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,that among these are Life,Liberty,and the Pursuit of Happiness.





Women too are created equal. Just let your woman be

@mukiha

I like your arguement. Indeed it wu\ould help to know that In marriage it is not about who wins but rather both parties do their best whether or not they are appreciated.

All in all our relationship with our maker is the real long term investment

italian saying ' if the bed is good the marriage is good '


tuweke amani for all the people

I think there should be a degree of submission,but not such that the wife becomes subservient,rather,plays her part while the man plays his part - this,irrespective of education,money,etc. Just like the game of rock,paper and scissors,at any given point,one comes out on top. Men are USELESS with shopping lists and such while WOMEN can't park cars Still men can fix small electrical issues and women will get the best deals in fresh food....so,it has to be symbiotic - no host and parasite....no master and slave....that also reminds me about the arguement the body parts where having and it turns out the most filthy body organ had a point to make....

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less